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Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:10 pm
by woot
To reduce excessive camping as seen in previous faction wars, the following is now enforced script-wise:

If you spend more than 15 minutes during your lifetime in an interior, your death fee will increase by 1.5x and opponents will get a checkpoint to your location.

You will receive a notification after having spent 5, 10 and 13 minutes in an interior. On minute 15, opposing factions get a checkpoint to your location. If you are in a business, they will have a checkpoint to the entrance, the same things goes for houses, HQs, warehouses, garages, etc..

Once you die, the counter for your time spent in an interior resets to 0.

We'll see how this goes for the next wars and may modify this again in the near future. :ugeek:
This is subject to change, we'll see how it goes in the next war. If it doesn't help at all, the next step is to force players out of the house/business/garage/whatever they are in.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:12 pm
by axe
ugly.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:14 pm
by Punjabi
:ugeek:

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:15 pm
by Donaldinho
Punjabi wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 4:14 pm
:ugeek:

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:16 pm
by Caesar
u kept poll with 2 options for 100 years and in the end changed it anw...
if they are camping inside hq or garage then thank you but i dont need checkpoint to know where they are
additionally it doesnt matter if you increase deathfees, we still cant rush on equal numbers.
basically u changed nothing

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:19 pm
by GodFather
Caesar wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 4:16 pm
u kept poll with 2 options for 100 years and in the end changed it anw...
if they are camping inside hq or garage then thank you but i dont need checkpoint to know where they are
additionally it doesnt matter if you increase deathfees, we still cant rush on equal numbers.
basically u changed nothing

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:19 pm
by TuCo
yikes

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:20 pm
by Donaldinho
I think people will still camp when they're in huge numbers but there's a higher incentive to rush now with increased death fee (should be higher to punish excessive camping, like 2x-3x)

It's a step in the right direction anyway..

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:20 pm
by DeathStrike
This won't prevent camping/reduce it, nobody cares about MONEY.
It'll only reduce people logging in to farm hours/paytime and hide. They won't be able to hide anymore, that's the only difference.

MIGHT encourage pushing.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:22 pm
by Cruz_Gonzalez
It's alright. A few tweaks to maybe reset the counter if you have been alive for a longer period and it should be good.

edit to clarify: maybe you have been alive for more than an hour and it all added up.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:27 pm
by woot
As said, this is subject to change, we'll see how it goes in the next war. If it doesn't help at all, the next step is to force players out of the house/business/garage/whatever they are in.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:29 pm
by yung
woot wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 4:27 pm
As said, this is subject to change, we'll see how it goes in the next war. If it doesn't help at all, the next step is to force players out of the house/business/garage/whatever they are in.
That won't fix the problem, why didn't you give feedback on this instead: viewtopic.php?f=341&t=184934&p=2388283#p2388283
If it's scriptable it's the best option.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:30 pm
by Machiavelli
Good job not changing anything at all.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:30 pm
by Kai
Very nice.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:31 pm
by Punjabi
woot wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 4:27 pm
As said, this is subject to change, we'll see how it goes in the next war. If it doesn't help at all, the next step is to force players out of the house/business/garage/whatever they are in.
It should be now as promised in the thread while having a poll on. Unless, you plan to change the winning conditions ; 50-70m difference for 24-48hrs+? :ugeek:

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:33 pm
by vans
interesting let's see how it goes

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:34 pm
by Machiavelli
Camp 12 vs 16 in your own HQ.
Enemy knows you're there and camps outside.
No one rushes. No one dies. Useless marker at the HQ and useless 1.5x death fee.

Thanks for trying.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:35 pm
by Punjabi
We were promised to get force out if someone camps for 15min+ or so but what we gets; 1.5x death fees :ugeek:

yea sure don't think anyone would give a fuck about losing 50k more.. :)

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:36 pm
by ahsugar
You don't need a war to tell you this is actually useless my dude.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:39 pm
by yung
ahsugar wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 4:36 pm
You don't need a war to tell you this is actually useless my dude.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:40 pm
by Gastone
Thank you!

Next step is making an option to win without surrendering or uninviting people.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:41 pm
by Liroy
ahsugar wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 4:36 pm
You don't need a war to tell you this is actually useless my dude.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:47 pm
by vens
jek get to work.. we need a war!

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 4:50 pm
by Slice
war is fun

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 5:02 pm
by Cruz_Gonzalez
Machiavelli wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 4:34 pm
Camp 12 vs 16 in your own HQ.
Enemy knows you're there and camps outside.
No one rushes. No one dies. Useless marker at the HQ and useless 1.5x death fee.

Thanks for trying.
If 12 people die from both factions, the rusher will be in advantage (death fee wise). Even if all 16 of the rushers and 12 campers died, the campers lose more money.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 5:11 pm
by Iam_Lino
Or just ban all interiors during war, example you are not allowed to enter any interior if there is any enemie online, allow to use only HQs where you can vest only.

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 5:12 pm
by Cruz_Gonzalez
Iam_Lino wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 5:11 pm
Or just ban all interiors during war, example you are not allowed to enter any interior if there is any enemie online, allow to use only HQs where you can vest only.
Or just paste an IP of an empty DM server and let people play 5v5 dgl duels there how about that

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 5:14 pm
by axe
Iam_Lino wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 5:11 pm
Or just ban all interiors during war, example you are not allowed to enter any interior if there is any enemie online, allow to use only HQs where you can vest only.
*facepalms*

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 5:31 pm
by Mr ExTaSy
Make it x3 or nothing

Re: Faction Wars: Preventing excessive camping

Posted: September 27th, 2020, 5:33 pm
by C-Slo
axe wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 5:14 pm
Iam_Lino wrote:
September 27th, 2020, 5:11 pm
Or just ban all interiors during war, example you are not allowed to enter any interior if there is any enemie online, allow to use only HQs where you can vest only.
*facepalms*