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Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 8:15 am

Let's say that the script got a fake license system, and I used up myself let's say I used Charles_Dalapego so whenever I get pulled over by PD or other people asks who am I, it'll show Charles instead of Nico. Now I got a question, what if PD pulls us over somewhere ( let's say at Tierra ) and I had to show my license because I am the current driver, then it will show Charles_Dalapego but unfortunately Charles already /q'd, what will happen? Will PD meta-game that I am using a fake license hence the blank /mdc that the script will give them due to the player being not found because he's not online?
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 8:35 am

The person not being found by the MDC means that the person doesn't exist, and that you are holding a fake license. There is no MG in it. The only MG that might happen is if it was shown on MDC, and PD MGs that it's not the person because of, lets say that your player ID isn't working with the commands because the real person is away from you. PD uses an OOC information (your player ID) to discover IC information (that you are carrying a fake license). This is the only case it would be considered as MG.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 10:48 am

Garry wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:35 am
The person not being found because of the MDC means that the person doesn't exist, and that you are holding a fake license. There is no MG in it. The only MG that might happen is if it was shown on MDC, and PD MGs that it's not the person because of, lets say that your player ID isn't working with the commands because the real person is away from you. PD uses an OOC information (your player ID) to discover IC information (that you are carrying a fake license). This is the only case it would be considered as MG.

Great explanation.
Anything else?
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 1:05 pm

yes lol whats the point of having fake lics if they are not usefull at all

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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 1:13 pm

jero wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 1:05 pm
yes lol whats the point of having fake lics if they are not usefull at all
Well if officers see you with weapon,you can show them fake lic with your name.
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August 11th, 2018, 2:11 pm

Mr ExTaSy wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 1:13 pm
jero wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 1:05 pm
yes lol whats the point of having fake lics if they are not usefull at all
Well if officers see you with weapon,you can show them fake lic with your name.
If you get caught for something like murder and you have a fake lic in some other guy's name but you also possess a real wep lic. Will your wep lic be revoked or will the cops "revoke" the fake wep lic thinking it was real?
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 2:50 pm

Garry wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:35 am
The person not being found by the MDC means that the person doesn't exist, and that you are holding a fake license. There is no MG in it. The only MG that might happen is if it was shown on MDC, and PD MGs that it's not the person because of, lets say that your player ID isn't working with the commands because the real person is away from you. PD uses an OOC information (your player ID) to discover IC information (that you are carrying a fake license). This is the only case it would be considered as MG.
That solution doesn't make sense. If the player exist, his MDC will show up. Him being offline doesn't magically erase him. You have MDC on sa-mp.im for a reason. You'll use it when it serves you right (i.e. in some case when you want to put up MDC data of someone offline), but won't use it when it doesn't serve you right?

With this, not only you're MGing yourself with offline player's name, but also encouraging players to go through player's list and pick an IC fake name. So, rule breaking and encouraging rulebreaking both.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 3:44 pm

Sly wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 2:50 pm
Garry wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:35 am
The person not being found by the MDC means that the person doesn't exist, and that you are holding a fake license. There is no MG in it. The only MG that might happen is if it was shown on MDC, and PD MGs that it's not the person because of, lets say that your player ID isn't working with the commands because the real person is away from you. PD uses an OOC information (your player ID) to discover IC information (that you are carrying a fake license). This is the only case it would be considered as MG.
That solution doesn't make sense. If the player exist, his MDC will show up. Him being offline doesn't magically erase him. You have MDC on sa-mp.im for a reason. You'll use it when it serves you right (i.e. in some case when you want to put up MDC data of someone offline), but won't use it when it doesn't serve you right?

With this, not only you're MGing yourself with offline player's name, but also encouraging players to go through player's list and pick an IC fake name. So, rule breaking and encouraging rulebreaking both.

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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 4:56 pm

Lool im so mad

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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 11th, 2018, 8:38 pm

Sly wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 2:50 pm
Garry wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:35 am
The person not being found by the MDC means that the person doesn't exist, and that you are holding a fake license. There is no MG in it. The only MG that might happen is if it was shown on MDC, and PD MGs that it's not the person because of, lets say that your player ID isn't working with the commands because the real person is away from you. PD uses an OOC information (your player ID) to discover IC information (that you are carrying a fake license). This is the only case it would be considered as MG.
That solution doesn't make sense. If the player exist, his MDC will show up. Him being offline doesn't magically erase him. You have MDC on sa-mp.im for a reason. You'll use it when it serves you right (i.e. in some case when you want to put up MDC data of someone offline), but won't use it when it doesn't serve you right?

With this, not only you're MGing yourself with offline player's name, but also encouraging players to go through player's list and pick an IC fake name. So, rule breaking and encouraging rulebreaking both.
I totally agree with you
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 3:39 am

Sly wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 2:50 pm
Garry wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:35 am
The person not being found by the MDC means that the person doesn't exist, and that you are holding a fake license. There is no MG in it. The only MG that might happen is if it was shown on MDC, and PD MGs that it's not the person because of, lets say that your player ID isn't working with the commands because the real person is away from you. PD uses an OOC information (your player ID) to discover IC information (that you are carrying a fake license). This is the only case it would be considered as MG.
That solution doesn't make sense. If the player exist, his MDC will show up. Him being offline doesn't magically erase him. You have MDC on sa-mp.im for a reason. You'll use it when it serves you right (i.e. in some case when you want to put up MDC data of someone offline), but won't use it when it doesn't serve you right?

With this, not only you're MGing yourself with offline player's name, but also encouraging players to go through player's list and pick an IC fake name. So, rule breaking and encouraging rulebreaking both.
Nice BS lol
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 3:41 am

Sachiko wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:15 am
Let's say that the script got a fake license system, and I used up myself let's say I used Charles_Dalapego so whenever I get pulled over by PD or other people asks who am I, it'll show Charles instead of Nico. Now I got a question, what if PD pulls us over somewhere ( let's say at Tierra ) and I had to show my license because I am the current driver, then it will show Charles_Dalapego but unfortunately Charles already /q'd, what will happen? Will PD meta-game that I am using a fake license hence the blank /mdc that the script will give them due to the player being not found because he's not online?
Well I've seen PD members testing fingerprint when the said player does not show in MDC and they rp like the fingerprint sensor show up your real name etc
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 5:19 am

Pyro wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 3:39 am
Sly wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 2:50 pm
Garry wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:35 am
The person not being found by the MDC means that the person doesn't exist, and that you are holding a fake license. There is no MG in it. The only MG that might happen is if it was shown on MDC, and PD MGs that it's not the person because of, lets say that your player ID isn't working with the commands because the real person is away from you. PD uses an OOC information (your player ID) to discover IC information (that you are carrying a fake license). This is the only case it would be considered as MG.
That solution doesn't make sense. If the player exist, his MDC will show up. Him being offline doesn't magically erase him. You have MDC on sa-mp.im for a reason. You'll use it when it serves you right (i.e. in some case when you want to put up MDC data of someone offline), but won't use it when it doesn't serve you right?

With this, not only you're MGing yourself with offline player's name, but also encouraging players to go through player's list and pick an IC fake name. So, rule breaking and encouraging rulebreaking both.
Nice BS lol
I am just going to ignore that assertion without a reason.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 11:06 am

Sly wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 2:50 pm
That solution doesn't make sense. If the player exist, his MDC will show up. Him being offline doesn't magically erase him. You have MDC on sa-mp.im for a reason. You'll use it when it serves you right (i.e. in some case when you want to put up MDC data of someone offline), but won't use it when it doesn't serve you right?

With this, not only you're MGing yourself with offline player's name, but also encouraging players to go through player's list and pick an IC fake name. So, rule breaking and encouraging rulebreaking both.
Well that does make sense as i also forgot about the UCP MDC tool.
But also a fingerprint command was added for such cases.

Personally,such case has never happened in front of me at all nor ever heard of it except for once where the command /fingerprint was used.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 11:20 am

Pyro wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 3:41 am
Sachiko wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:15 am
Let's say that the script got a fake license system, and I used up myself let's say I used Charles_Dalapego so whenever I get pulled over by PD or other people asks who am I, it'll show Charles instead of Nico. Now I got a question, what if PD pulls us over somewhere ( let's say at Tierra ) and I had to show my license because I am the current driver, then it will show Charles_Dalapego but unfortunately Charles already /q'd, what will happen? Will PD meta-game that I am using a fake license hence the blank /mdc that the script will give them due to the player being not found because he's not online?
Well I've seen PD members testing fingerprint when the said player does not show in MDC and they rp like the fingerprint sensor show up your real name etc
It is really funny how PD will force RP with fingerprint. If we are having Refugee character,they will use fingerprint and they will find out what is my name.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 11:39 am

Lot of opinions coming out haha, I don't know where to believe but I agree on Sly's but not on Andre's.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 11:41 am

Mr ExTaSy wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 11:20 am
Pyro wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 3:41 am
Sachiko wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:15 am
Let's say that the script got a fake license system, and I used up myself let's say I used Charles_Dalapego so whenever I get pulled over by PD or other people asks who am I, it'll show Charles instead of Nico. Now I got a question, what if PD pulls us over somewhere ( let's say at Tierra ) and I had to show my license because I am the current driver, then it will show Charles_Dalapego but unfortunately Charles already /q'd, what will happen? Will PD meta-game that I am using a fake license hence the blank /mdc that the script will give them due to the player being not found because he's not online?
Well I've seen PD members testing fingerprint when the said player does not show in MDC and they rp like the fingerprint sensor show up your real name etc
It is really funny how PD will force RP with fingerprint. If we are having Refugee character,they will use fingerprint and they will find out what is my name.
meh so funny that u were pd and you don't know that /fingerprint only works on players that have a criminal record
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 11:44 am

Darkel wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 11:41 am
Mr ExTaSy wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 11:20 am
Pyro wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 3:41 am
Sachiko wrote:
August 11th, 2018, 8:15 am
Let's say that the script got a fake license system, and I used up myself let's say I used Charles_Dalapego so whenever I get pulled over by PD or other people asks who am I, it'll show Charles instead of Nico. Now I got a question, what if PD pulls us over somewhere ( let's say at Tierra ) and I had to show my license because I am the current driver, then it will show Charles_Dalapego but unfortunately Charles already /q'd, what will happen? Will PD meta-game that I am using a fake license hence the blank /mdc that the script will give them due to the player being not found because he's not online?
Well I've seen PD members testing fingerprint when the said player does not show in MDC and they rp like the fingerprint sensor show up your real name etc
It is really funny how PD will force RP with fingerprint. If we are having Refugee character,they will use fingerprint and they will find out what is my name.
meh so funny that u were pd and you don't know that /fingerprint only works on players that have a criminal record
Aff damn didnt know lol
I was not CIS
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 11:59 am

we only used /fingerprint for players who are pging and won't /lic from our rp at cis, do even metro officers use the fingerprint stuff
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 12:56 pm

this whole fake lic system needs to be updated because it isn't logical to have it like that, as sly said pd gotta stop mging and should think of knew ideas instead

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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 1:04 pm

All I'm saying is, if the guy has went through efforts of putting on a fake license.. you shouldn't just metagame and take that away from him. Reward his roleplayish behaviour, that's rare on this server.

This game isn't about who takes who's shit most or damages most, it's about having fun. RPish behaviour and precautions taken by criminals should be rewarded by PD, even if you have to pretend to play dumb. You clearly know, it's not the same guy because script has limitations and that enables you to know that, don't carry it over in character.

I wish woot would script MDC to only work with full names, and it included database of all the players ever registered on the player.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 1:38 pm

Sachiko wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 11:59 am
we only used /fingerprint for players who are pging and won't /lic from our rp at cis, do even metro officers use the fingerprint stuff
Metro officers don't go to Tierra
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 1:39 pm

swat then, sorry for my mistake mister genius-pd
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 1:42 pm

Sachiko wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 1:39 pm
swat then, sorry for my mistake mister genius-pd
SWAT don't have people who would MG that kinda shit rn.
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 2:26 pm

If you get a name IC then why not and the MDC thing should bring up offline things (maybe that is a future suggestion)

But this would get abused very very hard cause offline players can't defend someone else using their name (hence why the MDC only shows online players?)

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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 3:08 pm

Pyro wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 1:42 pm
Sachiko wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 1:39 pm
swat then, sorry for my mistake mister genius-pd
SWAT don't have people who would MG that kinda shit rn.
Whole PD is shit right now, even tatta-pd was better than the shithole rn
they'd obv do that and I have every reason to think so
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 3:19 pm

C-Slo wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 3:08 pm
Pyro wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 1:42 pm
Sachiko wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 1:39 pm
swat then, sorry for my mistake mister genius-pd
SWAT don't have people who would MG that kinda shit rn.
Whole PD is shit right now, even tatta-pd was better than the shithole rn
they'd obv do that and I have every reason to think so
Okkay, If you have any evidence you can always report them to both IA and Admins
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 3:47 pm

its also MG to use the kill list or TAB to see the online players list so you can pick a random name from there to change to with the fake lic ;)
just saying
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Nipple nipple little star, can I fuck you in my car?
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 13th, 2018, 4:49 pm

Darkel wrote:
August 13th, 2018, 3:47 pm
its also MG to use the kill list or TAB to see the online players list so you can pick a random name from there to change to with the fake lic ;)
just saying
Yes and it's also MG to /mdc and not find the guy there and declare the license fake
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Re: Fake license issues ( ROLEPLAY )

August 15th, 2018, 11:09 am

Just don't do the crime if you can't take the consequences. Also I assume that there is visual difference between the original and fake document, correct me if I am wrong. If someone actually does MG, be free to report them.

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