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IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:35 am
by woot
Hello y'all,

please take a minute or two and let me know what you think about the current state of Italy Mafia.
Your submissions are anonymous and I am the only one who can see the results. Name & shame all the way you want.

http://sa-mp.im/misc/survey

I'll do my best to take actions based on what the survey outcome is.

Thanks!

EDIT:
Closed now. Thanks to everyone that participated. Actions based upon the survey result will follow soon. (It's quite a lot of data to go through)

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:36 am
by Donald
Oh boy.. the admin removal field is so...

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:39 am
by Peksi
#remove #woot

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:42 am
by T-Rock
Sent.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:43 am
by Mohsen
Cool really

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:45 am
by Object
Its nice you take people's opinion great job ;)

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:45 am
by Bennyy
We should have more admins. Not considering removing our current ones...

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:45 am
by resini
Gunna fill tomorrow, nice idea

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:46 am
by Green
Done & thx for the survey.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:46 am
by woot
Benny wrote:We should have more admins. Not considering removing our current ones...
It's not that easy. :)

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:49 am
by Bennyy
woot wrote:
Benny wrote:We should have more admins. Not considering removing our current ones...
It's not that easy. :)
We have 8 admins [Not including management] one of the 8 is a trial admin. This is a problem as we need more admins as because at the minute some times we have 0 admins online. Which means more hackers and rule breakers.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:49 am
by Whiskey
this is hard

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:49 am
by Object
woot wrote:
Benny wrote:We should have more admins. Not considering removing our current ones...
It's not that easy. :)
/s HIRING ADMINS

people : choice my me good rp

easy ;p but serious note some people deserve a shot.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:51 am
by Freya
This is really cute.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:55 am
by Luigi Tattaglia
Benny wrote:
woot wrote:
Benny wrote:We should have more admins. Not considering removing our current ones...
It's not that easy. :)
We have 8 admins [Not including management] one of the 8 is a trial admin. This is a problem as we need more admins as because at the minute some times we have 0 admins online. Which means more hackers and rule breakers.
And I assume helpers are the top priority when making new admins? We'll get new ones when woot finds decent players up for the task. I don't doubt he'd like to have dozens of admins that are awesome in every possible way, but that is just not the way things are.

Hacking is not a major issue right now, at least not hacking the way I imagine you percieve it; what I mean by this is that the problem doesn't lie in players spawning weapons or using speed hacks, but in those concealing them and adding more admins won't help with this. Lots of evidence and review will though.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:56 am
by vens
Cooool I hope to see some nice changes!

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 12:58 am
by Wee Man
We need admins from different timezones, most are always IA at certain times because 8/10 of them are from countries around Norway etc... I feel there should be admins from different time zones.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:00 am
by Bennyy
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:
Benny wrote:
woot wrote:
Benny wrote:We should have more admins. Not considering removing our current ones...
It's not that easy. :)
We have 8 admins [Not including management] one of the 8 is a trial admin. This is a problem as we need more admins as because at the minute some times we have 0 admins online. Which means more hackers and rule breakers.
And I assume helpers are the top priority when making new admins? We'll get new ones when woot finds decent players up for the task. I don't doubt he'd like to have dozens of admins that are awesome in every possible way, but that is just not the way things are.

Hacking is not a major issue right now, at least not hacking the way I imagine you percieve it; what I mean by this is that the problem doesn't lie in players spawning weapons or using speed hacks, but in those concealing them and adding more admins won't help with this. Lots of evidence and review will though.
More admins = More evidence quicker as admins will not have to deal with millions of things at once. This includes reports and ircs
More admins = More opinions, just like the Giovanni case. This means we have a greater overall admin team.
Less admins = Bigger work load.

About the whole helper thing. Not true. Mason or Thomas were never helpers.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:02 am
by Donald
Benny wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:
Benny wrote:
woot wrote:
Benny wrote:We should have more admins. Not considering removing our current ones...
It's not that easy. :)
We have 8 admins [Not including management] one of the 8 is a trial admin. This is a problem as we need more admins as because at the minute some times we have 0 admins online. Which means more hackers and rule breakers.
And I assume helpers are the top priority when making new admins? We'll get new ones when woot finds decent players up for the task. I don't doubt he'd like to have dozens of admins that are awesome in every possible way, but that is just not the way things are.

Hacking is not a major issue right now, at least not hacking the way I imagine you percieve it; what I mean by this is that the problem doesn't lie in players spawning weapons or using speed hacks, but in those concealing them and adding more admins won't help with this. Lots of evidence and review will though.
More admins = More evidence quicker as admins will not have to deal with millions of things at once. This includes reports and ircs
More admins = More opinions, just like the Giovanni case. This means we have a greater overall admin team.
Less admins = Bigger work load.

About the whole helper thing. Not true. Mason or Thomas were never helpers.
Admins need to have experience about the 0.3z mechanics, not having it may lead to wrong ban and further confusion, as experienced in the past.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:03 am
by Luigi Tattaglia
Raising the number of admins also raises the number of eventual errors. I rather see ten out of a hundred reports solved properly instead of half of them handled wrongfully.

More opinions don't matter either; opinions of people with the necessary knowledge however do matter.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:05 am
by Helene Fischer
''Which helper would you like to see removed'' & ''Why'' should be in the survey too.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:08 am
by Bennyy
Helene Fischer wrote:''Which helper would you like to see removed'' & ''Why'' should be in the survey too.
That ^^^
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Raising the number of admins also raises the number of eventual errors. I rather see ten out of a hundred reports solved properly instead of half of them handled wrongfully.

More opinions don't matter either; opinions of people with the necessary knowledge however do matter.
Ye, but as the amount of admins increase, the less reports these admins will have to deal with. This would help as admins will have less issues meaning less mistakes.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:10 am
by Cyclope
Perfect move.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:10 am
by Luigi Tattaglia
Raising the number of admins raises the number of potential mistakes. There is no workaround with this. Having less admins that resolve less reports, but appropriately do so, is the way to go.

Having less things to do won't change one's eventually abusive personality.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:10 am
by Lazzari
Give carlito admin he's cool

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:12 am
by Bennyy
Luigi Tatta lia wrote:Raising the number of admins raises the number of potential mistakes. There is no workaround with this. Having less admins that resolve less reports, but appropriately do so, is the way to go.

Having less things to do won't change one's eventually abusive personality.
I can vouch for the abusive personality. But I still think we need more admins. I don't mean hundards. I mean maybe 5 more.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:14 am
by Lazzari
I also want to see Luigi's suggestion implented, can't see why it got denied..

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:17 am
by Altierri
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Raising the number of admins raises the number of potential mistakes. There is no workaround with this. Having less admins that resolve less reports, but appropriately do so, is the way to go.

Having less things to do won't change one's eventually abusive personality.
If we can somehow lower the amount of reports people are making these days I'm all for that. It's a shame people are reporting even for the slightest annoyance they come across, both in-game and on the forums. Instead of asking for clarification with someone who may have broken the rules, they go straight to the forums or the /report button, while in a lot of cases there weren't any rules broken at all. Dealing with these senseless complaints and reports is taking up most of the time we spend on administrative duty.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:19 am
by Luigi Tattaglia
Yeah, I'm aware of that, especially seeing as before you even manage to check the report in question, two-three pages of discussion have already been posted. I also can't shake the feeling that half of the reports emerge just because player X wants to annoy player Y or just to waste his time.

Re: IM:RP Survey

Posted: May 14th, 2014, 1:22 am
by Stav Cuneo
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Yeah, I'm aware of that, especially seeing as before you even manage to check the report in question, two-three pages of discussion have already been posted.
Usually the first 5 posts are enough, rest is bullshit