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Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:17 pm
by dskhvci13
Leonz wrote:dskhvci13 wrote:Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Now that statement has nothing to do with anything factual; FBI was never meant to be FKing/CKing anyone, whichever way you wish to take it. If it was down to the FBI, there would be no stable faction on IM.
There is FBI, and there is the old FBI faction.
By vouching to bring back the FBI it's doesn't mean i want the old FBI players there (Noah Vosen etc..)
They simply didn't do their job well enough and good enough.
On there other hand, i remember when FBI arrested a tattaglia member, everything he did was trolling and he didn't gave a fuck about the game, which sucks.
If you want to have fun about the game, then you need to have consequences for you'r actions, take a glance at the "monopoly" game, people play it, and sometimes they loose, but it's still a fun game.
The only reason for you to not wanting FBI back is because you know you will have hard time staying on guard with you'r faction continues trolling around.
idk why but every reply of yours that i read, don't make sense to me l0l
Because you are not capable of understanding it, let me show you how it's easy to understand it.
I will break down my post for pieces.
1. Old FBI should not return, but new players with more creativity should take that faction.
2. Even if the old FBI sucks, that only because the iligall factions sucks more.
3. IF you don't want to get bored and want to have fun, then there must be consequences for you'r IG actions.
(you need oppositions, else what fun here?)
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:19 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
dskhvci13 wrote:
Because you are not capable of understanding it, let me show you how it's easy to understand it.
I will break down my post for pieces.
1. Old FBI should not return, but new players with more creativity should take that faction.
2. Even if the old FBI sucks, that only because the iligall factions sucks more.
3. IF you don't want to get bored and want to have fun, then there must be consequences for you'r IG actions.
(you need oppositions, else what fun here?)
Whenever FBI is brought back, the same old lineup of players is waiting to enter it and they do enter it. Your second point doesn't make any sense. Your third point is explained in my post above; the same would apply for FBI and the factions should be able to kill agents in such a fashion that their intel gathered is gone. If we're talking about roleplay; the best way to intimidate LEA members is to threaten their family; since players in IM have none, an important balancing tool is left out.
Regardless, just read the spoiler in my signature to realize what the actual goals of the server are. Take your time with it.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:24 pm
by ThaCrypte
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Now that statement has nothing to do with anything factual; FBI was never meant to be FKing/CKing anyone, whichever way you wish to take it. If it was down to the FBI, there would be no stable faction on IM.
Some LEA members had suddenly gotten it into their head to request CKs on different illegal faction members, which they never had as an option handed to them. You cannot do what you're not allowed to do. Its as simple as that. woot sometimes used the FBI as a nice IC way to remove factions which OOC deserved to be wiped.
During my time as M.I. ( Military Inteligence ) I actually had info about tatta and kemi, but people told me tatta = protected by woot etc, wich discouraged me to go on with it, however, after a week I had vlad cked, and kemi HQ raided. No MG there. Actually I love the RP of going undercover, investigations and all that. It's a shame I never had a change to get in the FBI, as it became friendship politic in the end. I also disliked the RP the FBI had, they were 24/7 name off, undercover and ain't doing much in my eyes. The problem of FBI were the members. If the FBI will be relaunched with a new leader, and new members, I think it will be great. However woot ain't giving legal factions to unnofficials, so he has to choose a new leader himself. Perhaps it will be nice if woot would lead the FBI himself, like in the old days. (Tired when I wrote this)
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:24 pm
by leonzio
Yeah.. I killed sob like 8-9 times while they were taking pics of me and shit.. but they still after 10minutes get to know about me.. it just doesn't fit the server, lol.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:25 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Leonz wrote:Yeah.. I killed sob like 8-9 times while they were taking pics of me and shit.. but they still after 10minutes get to know about me.. it just doesn't fit the server, lol.
Exactly.
. wrote:but people told me tatta = protected by woot etc
Because the reasoning of those people doesn't go beyond a line where they'd have to accept they're wrong and pass.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:29 pm
by CruzTattaglia
dskhvci13 wrote:Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Now that statement has nothing to do with anything factual; FBI was never meant to be FKing/CKing anyone, whichever way you wish to take it. If it was down to the FBI, there would be no stable faction on IM.
There is FBI, and there is the old FBI faction.
By vouching to bring back the FBI it's doesn't mean i want the old FBI players there (Noah Vosen etc..)
They simply didn't do their job well enough and good enough.
On there other hand, i remember when FBI arrested a tattaglia member, everything he did was trolling and he diddn't gave a fuck about the game, which sucks.
You're BSing. Once when Carlito got arrested, Luigi came in as his lawyer (from an alt acc) and it was an awesome RP scene.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:29 pm
by ThaCrypte
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Leonz wrote:Yeah.. I killed sob like 8-9 times while they were taking pics of me and shit.. but they still after 10minutes get to know about me.. it just doesn't fit the server, lol.
Exactly.
SOB fail, sorry to say it but it's the truth.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:30 pm
by Vic
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:I won't have a hard at all because I never expose myself at robberies; I rarely rob anyway because I've left it behind me a long time ago.
I am speaking about the greater benefit of the server. If FBI can gather info about factions, then factions should be able to kill off the agents aswell. Its as simple as that. This is where these individuals go bonkers mad about this and all of a sudden drop their FBI "roleplay standards" and suddenly take the "but this is a game" wild card. You either apply high-end roleplay to everything or you don't apply it at all/leaving it optional.
Yeah, I totally agree on that "faction's would be able to kill Agents aswell" to 100%. IF now FBI would get back, I'd rather see that the "10 min-rule" or w.e it's called for LEA/O's gets deleted, which makes Officers and whatnot vulnerable aswell than to see some bullshit SOB/FBI would bring up again.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:31 pm
by dskhvci13
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:dskhvci13 wrote:
Because you are not capable of understanding it, let me show you how it's easy to understand it.
I will break down my post for pieces.
1. Old FBI should not return, but new players with more creativity should take that faction.
2. Even if the old FBI sucks, that only because the iligall factions sucks more.
3. IF you don't want to get bored and want to have fun, then there must be consequences for you'r IG actions.
(you need oppositions, else what fun here?)
Whenever FBI is brought back, the same old lineup of players is waiting to enter it and they do enter it. Your second point doesn't make any sense. Your third point is explained in my post above; the same would apply for FBI and the factions should be able to kill agents in such a fashion that their intel gathered is gone. If we're talking about roleplay; the best way to intimidate LEA members is to threaten their family; since players in IM have none, an important balancing tool is left out.
Regardless, just read the spoiler in my signature to realize what the actual goals of the server are. Take your time with it.
If RPG gaming was the goal of the server, many players including me won't be here.
About the FBI, if you capture an FBI agent inside you'r organisation, or if you know he got valuable information on you'r faction,
Then you should be able to FK him also, period.
I don't understand why you keep sticking to that issue, no one said you shouldn't be able to FK FBI member if Rped properly, but you should also take the consequences of being Fked; The best way to intimidate LEA members isn't by threaten their family, LEO's, Judge's and government authorities always know the risk of a car bomb under their car, it's comes with the profession; If you want to threat an LEO, take a prostitute and seduce him, takes photos of that romantic meeting, or take photo of him getting a bribe, walla - you are black mailing a cop.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:32 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Yes, I roleplayed Carlito's lawyer on several occasions and the RP coming from their side was quite embarassing.
. wrote:If RPG gaming was the goal of the server, many players including me won't be here.
The quote in my spoiler breaks it down to you, once again. You don't require me telling you anything here. Those "
many" are a small minority because such players come and go, while the RPG core always remained loyal to IM.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:33 pm
by leonzio
dskhvci13 wrote:Luigi Tattaglia wrote:dskhvci13 wrote:
Because you are not capable of understanding it, let me show you how it's easy to understand it.
I will break down my post for pieces.
1. Old FBI should not return, but new players with more creativity should take that faction.
2. Even if the old FBI sucks, that only because the iligall factions sucks more.
3. IF you don't want to get bored and want to have fun, then there must be consequences for you'r IG actions.
(you need oppositions, else what fun here?)
Whenever FBI is brought back, the same old lineup of players is waiting to enter it and they do enter it. Your second point doesn't make any sense. Your third point is explained in my post above; the same would apply for FBI and the factions should be able to kill agents in such a fashion that their intel gathered is gone. If we're talking about roleplay; the best way to intimidate LEA members is to threaten their family; since players in IM have none, an important balancing tool is left out.
Regardless, just read the spoiler in my signature to realize what the actual goals of the server are. Take your time with it.
If RPG gaming was the goal of the server, many players including me won't be here.
woot wrote:I wouldn't mind changing the server name back to Italy Mafia RPG
burn
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:33 pm
by P4kit0
Even if you fancy an FBI built by fucking dope players many creative filled with good ideas and with non abusive thinking... in the long run, it will become the shit it was in the past.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:34 pm
by Helene Fischer
dskhvci13 wrote:
About the FBI, if you capture an FBI agent inside you'r organisation, or if you know he got valuable information on you'r faction,
Then you should be able to FK him also, period.
your not you'r
so annoying sry
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:35 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
P4kit0 wrote:Even if you fancy an FBI built by fucking dope players many creative filled with good ideas and with non abusive thinking... in the long run, it will become the shit it was in the past.
In the long run, FBI always craves for true power via ruining the essence of IM.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:35 pm
by Vic
P4kit0 wrote:Even if you fancy an FBI built by fucking dope players many creative filled with good ideas and with non abusive thinking... in the long run, it will become the shit it was in the past.
How would it go downtown if all the dope players filled with creativeness and with good ideas which got the non-abusive thinking would stay the same the long run? That post was pure bullshit.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:37 pm
by ThaCrypte
P4kit0 wrote:Even if you fancy an FBI built by fucking dope players many creative filled with good ideas and with non abusive thinking... in the long run, it will become the shit it was in the past.
People that think the way like you're thinking right now, won't keep it for long indeed.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:41 pm
by dskhvci13
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Yes, I roleplayed Carlito's lawyer on several occasions and the RP coming from their side was quite embarassing.
The different players should be selected for the FBI position.
Also, If criminals will be able to FK FBI members, then FBI will run as a federal organisation, and not CIA. as the environment will change rapidly.
The main problem of this server are butt-hurt players who cares about their position too much, and care less about playing the game.
People forget this is only a game.. which is sad.
@P4kit0, this kind of attitude is what making life worst.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:42 pm
by jek
Miller wrote:P4kit0 wrote:Even if you fancy an FBI built by fucking dope players many creative filled with good ideas and with non abusive thinking... in the long run, it will become the shit it was in the past.
How would it go downtown if all the dope players filled with creativeness and with good ideas which got the non-abusive thinking would stay the same the long run? That post was pure bullshit.
please give tom_miller leader in fbi
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:45 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Miller wrote:P4kit0 wrote:Even if you fancy an FBI built by fucking dope players many creative filled with good ideas and with non abusive thinking... in the long run, it will become the shit it was in the past.
How would it go downtown if all the dope players filled with creativeness and with good ideas which got the non-abusive thinking would stay the same the long run? That post was pure bullshit.
Your post contains a Biblic narrative of FBI members. Creative, dope, with good ideas, not abusive. Theres not even one.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:48 pm
by dskhvci13
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Miller wrote:P4kit0 wrote:Even if you fancy an FBI built by fucking dope players many creative filled with good ideas and with non abusive thinking... in the long run, it will become the shit it was in the past.
How would it go downtown if all the dope players filled with creativeness and with good ideas which got the non-abusive thinking would stay the same the long run? That post was pure bullshit.
Your post contains a Biblic narrative of FBI members. Creative, dope, with good ideas, not abusive. Theres not even one.
You don't know all the playerbase.
There are Creative, dope, with good ideas, not abusive players all over the server, i know many of them personally.
thos kind of guys are the one who makes me stay in the server and to keep on RPing.
else if i would stuck with the regular illigal factions players i will be long gone, because it's simply sucks to rob all day and to force RP by opening some resturant.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 16th, 2014, 11:50 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Alright, whatever.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 12:09 am
by Aleya BANNED
I think woot should be the leader of FBI because he used to make it so special.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 12:21 am
by Chole
Aleyazor wrote:I think woot should be the leader of FBI because he used to make it so special.
Or maybe someone from LSPD (SOB obviously) can lead it.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 12:51 am
by dskhvci13
Sir Chole wrote:Aleyazor wrote:I think woot should be the leader of FBI because he used to make it so special.
Or maybe someone from LSPD (SOB obviously) can lead it.
LSPD are too much brain damaged to handle FBI.
e.g: Allin_Dawson, Brian_Correli, and more guys who can't understand logical expressions.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 12:52 am
by Chucky
hahahaha sob leading fbi lmao haha rofl,
No.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 12:54 am
by Donny
No to FBI for obvious reasons, they might be capable but this faction never works. Plus I don't see why you need it that much..
No to saving guns, its ridiculous can't you understand how the currency will change?
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 12:58 am
by Aleya BANNED
Sir Chole wrote:Aleyazor wrote:I think woot should be the leader of FBI because he used to make it so special.
Or maybe someone from LSPD (SOB obviously) can lead it.
no thanks
I don't think Bill wants to lose more skilled members
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 1:01 am
by Chole
Chucky wrote:hahahaha sob leading fbi lmao haha rofl,
No.
I never said that SOB will lead FBI, learn2read... I said that SOMEONE from SOB, obviously the investigation division - should lead FBI. If there ever will be a FBI.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 1:02 am
by ThaCrypte
Chucky wrote:hahahaha sob leading fbi lmao haha rofl,
No.
Re: Survey conclusions
Posted: May 17th, 2014, 1:27 am
by Carrone
People are gonna go fucking mental over gunprices after like a week of playing wishing they had never voted for that shit