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Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:42 pm
by Chav
Sly wrote:I believe this wasn't thought through enough lol.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:42 pm
by vin
Rip turfing.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:43 pm
by Whiskey
woot pretending to be afk while he comes up with a solution.

+rr is late

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:44 pm
by Snoozy
Whiskey wrote:woot pretending to be afk while he comes up with a solution.

+rr is late
+ we forgot how to care

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:45 pm
by wiz
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Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:45 pm
by Copani
woot wrote: Corleone has this this unlucky member called Michael Corleone
nice writting woot

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:47 pm
by SmileMore
nice update woot, who will own the hydrolics business ??

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:48 pm
by DeathWish
Best solution is probably having a warning message saying civillians enter at your own risk, and if you get killed in that turf, tough shit.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:50 pm
by DaoC
Hahahaha this tdm server

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:52 pm
by woot
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Everyone should be forced to use reserved skins during turftakeovers to avoid useless reports, otherwise everyone inside the turf becomes a legitimate target as you can't make up who is going for a biz or not.
That's the wrong mentality - instead of showing everybody who you are, stay unrecognized, use random skins. Last time I checked if you deathmatch somebody that's a 2-4 hour jail

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:54 pm
by Fabio
woot wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Everyone should be forced to use reserved skins during turftakeovers to avoid useless reports, otherwise everyone inside the turf becomes a legitimate target as you can't make up who is going for a biz or not.
That's the wrong mentality - instead of showing everybody who you are, stay unrecognized, use random skins. Last time I checked if you deathmatch somebody that's a 2-4 hour jail
And how exactly are you supposed to defend your turf if they are using random skins?

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:55 pm
by DaoC
Hey handsup!!!

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:55 pm
by woot
Fabio wrote:
woot wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Everyone should be forced to use reserved skins during turftakeovers to avoid useless reports, otherwise everyone inside the turf becomes a legitimate target as you can't make up who is going for a biz or not.
That's the wrong mentality - instead of showing everybody who you are, stay unrecognized, use random skins. Last time I checked if you deathmatch somebody that's a 2-4 hour jail
And how exactly are you supposed to defend your turf if they are using random skins?
You follow people and look if they're "suspiciously" going from business to business to house to business. You don't just shoot anyone that stands infront of a business.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:55 pm
by Makke
Fabio wrote:
woot wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Everyone should be forced to use reserved skins during turftakeovers to avoid useless reports, otherwise everyone inside the turf becomes a legitimate target as you can't make up who is going for a biz or not.
That's the wrong mentality - instead of showing everybody who you are, stay unrecognized, use random skins. Last time I checked if you deathmatch somebody that's a 2-4 hour jail
And how exactly are you supposed to defend your turf if they are using random skins?

I bet random people won't go biz / house entrances and leave immediately???

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:56 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
woot wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Everyone should be forced to use reserved skins during turftakeovers to avoid useless reports, otherwise everyone inside the turf becomes a legitimate target as you can't make up who is going for a biz or not.
That's the wrong mentality - instead of showing everybody who you are, stay unrecognized, use random skins. Last time I checked if you deathmatch somebody that's a 2-4 hour jail
How are we supposed to find out who the enemies are then, because time is running out?

There is nothing that can indicate it. There is no IC nor OOC hint. Its just a lucky guess.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:56 pm
by Fabio
Okay restart it. Let's see how it plays out.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:57 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Makke wrote:
Fabio wrote:
woot wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Everyone should be forced to use reserved skins during turftakeovers to avoid useless reports, otherwise everyone inside the turf becomes a legitimate target as you can't make up who is going for a biz or not.
That's the wrong mentality - instead of showing everybody who you are, stay unrecognized, use random skins. Last time I checked if you deathmatch somebody that's a 2-4 hour jail
And how exactly are you supposed to defend your turf if they are using random skins?

I bet random people won't go biz / house entrances and leave immediately???
What if they do? There is a possibility they do and with it comes a possibility to get ajailed while trying to defend your turf.

There is even a possibility to deliberately send your friends that are civilians to do it in order to get someone ajailed.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:58 pm
by vin
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:
Makke wrote:
Fabio wrote:
woot wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Everyone should be forced to use reserved skins during turftakeovers to avoid useless reports, otherwise everyone inside the turf becomes a legitimate target as you can't make up who is going for a biz or not.
That's the wrong mentality - instead of showing everybody who you are, stay unrecognized, use random skins. Last time I checked if you deathmatch somebody that's a 2-4 hour jail
And how exactly are you supposed to defend your turf if they are using random skins?

I bet random people won't go biz / house entrances and leave immediately???
What if they do? There is a possibility they do. There is a possibility to deliberately send your friends that are civilians to do it in order to get someone ajailed.
((reply dm :) ))

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 4:59 pm
by ialokiN
What's wrong in forcing members to use restricted skins during turf takeovers .. just like they do in a war?

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:01 pm
by Copani
The Game wrote:
woot wrote: Corleone has this this unlucky member called Michael Corleone
nice writting woot

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:05 pm
by SmokeyMLT
P4kit0 wrote:5 guys, random skins, names off, alone driving around... How can be found by opposite faction other than using nametag?

This may lead to
"Oh, that guy is driving an nrg"
** PRAA PRAA PRAA **
** Random civilian shot down **
((reply on forum for dm))
+1,000,000,000,000,000,00,000,00,00,0,00,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:05 pm
by Darien
The update looks good in writing, but in the DM Section of the reports, it's not going to look as good.

I think something should be done, maybe even a "You are entering a turfed area, your name has been automatically turned on"

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:06 pm
by ialokiN
No ,maybe DM reports like that should be considered invalid since they will be already warned ( turf message).

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:06 pm
by wiz
Darien wrote:The update looks good in writing, but in the DM Section of the reports, it's not going to look as good.

I think something should be done, maybe even a "You are entering a turfed area, your name has been automatically turned on"
Isn't that concidered as metagaming but in this case the server automatically makes you metagame? XD

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:06 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Simply forcin restricted skins will solve it lol

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:07 pm
by zedy
NIOCE

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:07 pm
by vin
..or just don't implement this system.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:08 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Vin wrote:..or just don't implement this system.
well, that escalated quickly

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:08 pm
by Darien
wiz wrote:
Darien wrote:The update looks good in writing, but in the DM Section of the reports, it's not going to look as good.

I think something should be done, maybe even a "You are entering a turfed area, your name has been automatically turned on"
Isn't that concidered as metagaming but in this case the server automatically makes you metagame? XD

I thought woot allowed MG in cases like this? correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that how it's always been? I mean at least that's what people like Luigi, carlito, etc say? And.... I promise if I respond to a biz robbery with name on and civ skin on my PD account I will get shot and PM'ed "You're a cop, not DM" So.... Not like you guys don't do it anyways.

Re: Revised Turf System

Posted: April 6th, 2015, 5:09 pm
by Luigi Tattaglia
Darien wrote:
wiz wrote:
Darien wrote:The update looks good in writing, but in the DM Section of the reports, it's not going to look as good.

I think something should be done, maybe even a "You are entering a turfed area, your name has been automatically turned on"
Isn't that concidered as metagaming but in this case the server automatically makes you metagame? XD

I thought woot allowed MG in cases like this? correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that how it's always been? I mean at least that's what people like Luigi, carlito, etc say? And.... I promise if I respond to a biz robbery with name on and civ skin on my PD account I will get shot and PM'ed "You're a cop, not DM" So.... Not like you guys don't do it anyways.
If we respond to a turf because its blinking on a map/because a text notified us about it, then its MG from the start, but its obviously allowed to respond.

Theres no guidelines anyway, everyone can claim whatever they want lol