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Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:20 pm
by K3
Start respecting them.
I've had so many problems with people PMing me about wanting to take over X and Y, and Z stepping down because W should get his position. Then W gets the position and want to give it to V who then doesn't really want it and won't commit completely.
It's time you start respecting the 0 in TIER 0. It's the most power you can have in a faction. And being on the faction leader thread is an honor - you represent a part of the community and You are contributing to the community with your creativity and effort.
Leaders are meant to be respected, and not changed every other day.
From this moment I will start making a list of faction leaders who step down. Those leaders will no longer be able to lead factions unless they provide an extremely good reason. The list will obviously contain dates so it's not 100% permanent.
Respect your factions.
Stupid comments in this thread will get you banned!
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:22 pm
by Fabio
What about factions like Tattaglia? It has had the same leaders for years now and sometimes they do step down.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:24 pm
by VincentGambino
That was probably meant for Stracci and Corleone who changed their leaders 3 or 4 times in the last month or so
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:24 pm
by K3
Fabio wrote:What about factions like Tattaglia? It has had the same leaders for years now and sometimes they do step down.
If the faction leader thread is altered, then the same applies as I wrote in the thread.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:27 pm
by ShuruP4D
You do know my reasons, but nevertheless - I ask for nothing but forgiveness, my king.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:27 pm
by Macedon
Every single player needs to respect any faction leader,but its kind of unlogic judging who are t0`s nowadays.
Anyway you have said it well Kelroy,few threads of this kind wont hurt anyone,IM needs some refreshing.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:27 pm
by dredniks
what about Stracci who changed like 6 leaders since it's reunited? how to respect them because probably after a week they will recieve an new one..
what about Corleone. Palumbo connection who changed like 3 leaders in passed week.. how to respect them?
But of course what you wrote is true and they should have respect from every side.
ps. respect for Kemirov, they're running an great union for a long time.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:28 pm
by K3
dredniks wrote:what about Stracci who changed like 6 leaders since it's reunited? how to respect them because probably after a week they will recieve an new one..
what about Corleone. Palumbo connection who changed like 3 leaders in passed week.. how to respect them?
But of course what you wrote is true and they should have respect from every side.
ps. respect for Kemirov, they're running an great union for a long time.
I refer to the purpose of the thread.

Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:30 pm
by Jeff Tattaglia
Leaders who are unable to make their members respect them are obviously not suited for the job. I think the problem is that it is too easy to get invited into a illegal faction nowadays, so people don't even show any respect for the whole concept. Long ago it actually meant something, people stood gateguard from lvl 1-8 and shit just to be seen when the red name passed the gate every now and then xD. But now it's like typing /carjacker next to a floating icon.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:33 pm
by Dodinho
Jeff Tattaglia wrote:Leaders who are unable to make their members respect them are obviously not suited for the job. I think the problem is that it is too easy to get invited into a illegal faction nowadays, so people don't even show any respect for the whole concept. Long ago it actually meant something, people stood gateguard from lvl 1-8 and shit just to be seen when the red name passed the gate every now and then xD. But now it's like typing /carjacker next to a floating icon.
This.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:46 pm
by K3
Dodinho wrote:Jeff Tattaglia wrote:Leaders who are unable to make their members respect them are obviously not suited for the job. I think the problem is that it is too easy to get invited into a illegal faction nowadays, so people don't even show any respect for the whole concept. Long ago it actually meant something, people stood gateguard from lvl 1-8 and shit just to be seen when the red name passed the gate every now and then xD. But now it's like typing /carjacker next to a floating icon.
This.
That.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 13th, 2013, 11:51 pm
by VincentGambino
There's a few things that can be done to improve that and cut down on faction hopping. First the rule that was suggested where you cant join a faction for 14 days after you get FKed and also increasing the /invite level to 8. Secondly any FK would have to be approved by a T0. This way it would be harder to join and harder to leave.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 12:04 am
by Bastard
I apologize for leaving T0 multiple times after just a few weeks of having them. I just wish you believe me when I say that they all happened because I wasn't able to be active enough due to certain real life issues I have had during the last two years.
Dodinho wrote:Jeff Tattaglia wrote:Leaders who are unable to make their members respect them are obviously not suited for the job. I think the problem is that it is too easy to get invited into a illegal faction nowadays, so people don't even show any respect for the whole concept. Long ago it actually meant something, people stood gateguard from lvl 1-8 and shit just to be seen when the red name passed the gate every now and then xD. But now it's like typing /carjacker next to a floating icon.
This.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 12:05 am
by OrkaHaris
Jeff Tattaglia wrote:Leaders who are unable to make their members respect them are obviously not suited for the job. I think the problem is that it is too easy to get invited into a illegal faction nowadays, so people don't even show any respect for the whole concept. Long ago it actually meant something, people stood gateguard from lvl 1-8 and shit just to be seen when the red name passed the gate every now and then xD. But now it's like typing /carjacker next to a floating icon.
I remember when I first joined Cuneo, as my first faction ever to join. I was applying myself to what you exactly defined, standing by the gate level by level. That would be my day of enjoyment, moving back and forth every hour by the gate keeping unwanted people from entering through the gates. I was very disrespected by my soldiers yet I had high respect and loyalness to them and even seeing a tier 0 nearly made me orgasm. Indeed times has changed and that upsets me slightly since that was one of the most fun jobs I've ever had, being a gateguard. Which basically answers to why my daily activitys is to jump from one car to another at the Tattaglia HQ for a couple of hours whenever I'm online.
OT: I belive this is a great system for people who step down, though a suggestion would be that this only applys to people that step down after having served a short period of time as the factions leader. I personally would mind if a person would get positionated on the list if he, for example, went into hospital or had to go in-active for a while due to their real life(
after having been the leader for a longer period of time).
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 12:07 am
by VincentGambino
Yeah you obviously shouldnt be punished when you get shot while taking out the garbage IRL
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 12:08 am
by DonCorleone
I must to reply here,Admins and Owners of this cool server need to respect someone hard IC work....MacKenzie you know what i mean. Thats all.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 12:22 am
by DonCorleone
VincentGambino wrote:That was probably meant for Stracci and Corleone who changed their leaders 3 or 4 times in the last month or so
.... true and sad.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 12:37 am
by Mickey_Capelli
If you look deep into it there's two kind of people , the people who work hard to achieve what they want and the people who just get it by doing nothing.
For my case i'll give the salute and respect deserved to the first example.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 1:10 am
by Stav Cuneo
A leader should be able to make his own members respect him, If he fails to do such thing, He is not supposed to be tier 0...
Jeff Tattaglia wrote:Leaders who are unable to make their members respect them are obviously not suited for the job. I think the problem is that it is too easy to get invited into a illegal faction nowadays, so people don't even show any respect for the whole concept. Long ago it actually meant something, people stood gateguard from lvl 1-8 and shit just to be seen when the red name passed the gate every now and then xD. But now it's like typing /carjacker next to a floating icon.
They are old times,that's why they are called old... It isn't easy to join a faction... it depends on which faction ofcouse but as far as i know you cannot join any faction unless you try really hard
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 1:32 am
by Luigi Tattaglia
Finally. Doing things within the community should affect your reputation and thats just not visible nowadays. Hopefully now people will think better when they make actions. Many people get leadership and then let the faction rott, using up space of what could have been an awesome group of people that would contribute to lots of events and IC occurances. Faction leaders need to start thinking about who the rank up, wether they'll be loyal or not(as in attempting to take over) and so on. Everyone is just too used to sending a PM to admins to have their needs satisfied.
He said why he does it and when it applies. He doesn't need to write down a thousand cases when this thing applies and when it doesn't; its impossible to name all possible outcomes. Use your brains people and apply common sense.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 3:18 am
by Anaconda
Perry wrote:I could be misinformed but haven't you yourself bailed on multiple tier 0 positions within the last year...?
lol'd
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 7:03 am
by Hamze
Recently you see ahmad_terrorist a T0 which is another reason of the corruption happening in factions, Tattaglia and Kemirov are the only factions which deserve respect at the moment, not only by their members but by every community member, they Maintain one leader at all times, even if they change the leader every once in a while, it's someone who stayed there a long period.
I'd rather sit beside the gate with a desert eagle in my hand instead of getting invited for doing nothing.. i really did enjoy the times you stood by the gate, then the SAME T1 who told you to stand their comes with a new skin and name off and makes a little "test" on you to see what you do if an intruder comes.. good times.. good times.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 7:33 am
by Verq
Too many guys gets their ranks by OOC nowadays :3 If you are the faction leader friend IRL or something you will be T1 in week.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 8:36 am
by Aleya BANNED
All I've seen lately from most of factions is power ranking, inactivity and lack of experience. I hope one day I will login on the forums and see all of the illegal factions wiped and re-opened with new leaders, except a few which I am not going to state.
Though, even leaders sometimes insult their members and treat them like slaves OOC.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 9:49 am
by Freya
dredniks wrote:
ps. respect for Kemirov, they're running an great union for a long time.
Kemirov changed T0 3-4 times in the last 2 months.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 9:50 am
by Aleya BANNED
Lynx wrote:dredniks wrote:
ps. respect for Kemirov, they're running an great union for a long time.
Kemirov changed T0 3-4 times in the last 2 months.
Kemirov is the only stable and well-runned faction I can tell. Too bad I don't like Russian RP or I would have joined it.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 9:52 am
by Blake
Lynx wrote:dredniks wrote:
ps. respect for Kemirov, they're running an great union for a long time.
Kemirov changed T0 3-4 times in the last 2 months.
I can't see a problem if the changes were fully by IC actions..
Nevertheless, Vladimir is the boss - T0 more than 2 years at the same faction and it got never changed.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 9:54 am
by Freya
Fagnozzo wrote:Too many guys gets their ranks by OOC nowadays :3 If you are the faction leader friend IRL or something you will be T1 in week.
And unfortunately no one reports for power ranking. There should be an admin OOC in every faction.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 9:56 am
by Buck
Some years back i was like a wannabe Tattagli. I stood like hours at your HQ at bayside i been standing there for hours and daily. Some day they brought me to rob a business then Fabio /invited me in after some RP made.
Re: Faction Leaderships
Posted: March 14th, 2013, 10:00 am
by Michael_Belucci
Hope 1 day I will be in a faction..