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Alsarty
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 3:30 pm

Infamous wrote:If a single staff member hates you, you are denied :)
no lol

It goes with votes. Every admin can reply with 1+ or -1. Helpers only reply with 1+ or stfu so yeh don't think that you are getting denied because someone 'hates' you

Oak
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 3:41 pm

You don't know everything Santini <.<
it's not correct what you said

Snoozy
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 3:49 pm

A Santini wrote:
Infamous wrote:If a single staff member hates you, you are denied :)
no lol

It goes with votes. Every admin can reply with 1+ or -1. Helpers only reply with 1+ or stfu so yeh don't think that you are getting denied because someone 'hates' you
Totally wrong.

Infamous
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 3:51 pm

Deck wrote:
Infamous wrote:If a single staff member hates you, you are denied :)
Not really, but if you plagiarize people's guides, or guide, and claim all the credit for your own; then maybe that's a reason. :)
I didn't plagiarize, Most of it was written by me, those definitions were not mine as I wanted exact words.
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Oak
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 3:53 pm

Infamous wrote:
Deck wrote:
Infamous wrote:If a single staff member hates you, you are denied :)
Not really, but if you plagiarize people's guides, or guide, and claim all the credit for your own; then maybe that's a reason. :)
I didn't plagiarize, Most of it was written by me, those definitions were not mine as I wanted exact words.
Which you should credit for. Saying "all mine" isn't giving credit. EVEN on definitions

Infamous
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 3:55 pm

Oak wrote:
Infamous wrote:
Deck wrote:
Infamous wrote:If a single staff member hates you, you are denied :)
Not really, but if you plagiarize people's guides, or guide, and claim all the credit for your own; then maybe that's a reason. :)
I didn't plagiarize, Most of it was written by me, those definitions were not mine as I wanted exact words.
Which you should credit for. Saying "all mine" isn't giving credit. EVEN on definitions
Okay, I accept it, I made mistake.
Everyone do mistakes in their life

Kody Vendetta
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 4:04 pm

Infamous wrote:
Oak wrote:
Infamous wrote:
Deck wrote:
Infamous wrote:If a single staff member hates you, you are denied :)
Not really, but if you plagiarize people's guides, or guide, and claim all the credit for your own; then maybe that's a reason. :)
I didn't plagiarize, Most of it was written by me, those definitions were not mine as I wanted exact words.
Which you should credit for. Saying "all mine" isn't giving credit. EVEN on definitions
Okay, I accept it, I made mistake.
Everyone do mistakes in their life
Well even if he was right or wrong, Try not to make none of the staff hates you ;)

Oak
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 4:06 pm

The staff doesn't hate anyone ffs. except stav. Everyone hates stav.

Kody Vendetta
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 4:07 pm

I respect all of them ;) , don't think any one of them hates me ;)

Otherwise from me being annoying

Snoozy
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 4:08 pm

ManOfClass wrote:Otherwise from me being annoying
True.

D-Mob
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 4:13 pm

Snoozy wrote:
ManOfClass wrote:Otherwise from me being annoying
True.
j

Giovanni_C
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 4:33 pm

Oak wrote:Everyone hates stav.
obv they do :p

CruzTattaglia
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 10:03 pm

Oak wrote:The staff doesn't hate anyone ffs. except stav. Everyone hates stav.
I DONT HATE STAV!

Sahar
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 10:05 pm

cruz4helper!

Alsarty
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 10:10 pm

Cruz_Gonzalez wrote:
Oak wrote:The staff doesn't hate anyone ffs. except stav. Everyone hates stav.
I DONT HATE STAV!
no

Kody Vendetta
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 1st, 2014, 10:37 pm

I hate no one.. btw Everyone can become their own helper :D

Start from now ;)

Dark Bassem
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 2nd, 2014, 10:40 am

Most helpers are treated like shit by admins.

Deck
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 2nd, 2014, 10:59 am

Dark Bassem wrote:Most helpers are treated like shit by admins.
That's not true...

If that was the case I wouldn't even be in this position.

wiz
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 2nd, 2014, 11:39 am

Deck wrote:
Dark Bassem wrote:Most helpers are treated like shit by admins.
That's not true...

If that was the case I wouldn't even be in this position.
Did you stop playing the server though? I never see you. :?

Deck
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 2nd, 2014, 11:40 am

wiz wrote:
Deck wrote:
Dark Bassem wrote:Most helpers are treated like shit by admins.
That's not true...

If that was the case I wouldn't even be in this position.
Did you stop playing the server though? I never see you. :?
Keep up to date. I am more active recently.

+ remember there is a forum (this forum) which I use, always treated fine, and whenever I was in-game before.

You'd only get treated like shit if you are being one.

Dark Bassem
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 4th, 2014, 4:21 pm

We do have loads of helpers who left the admin team due to being treated like shit/slave.

Kody Vendetta
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 4th, 2014, 4:59 pm

This hasn't close? :o

Oak
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 4th, 2014, 5:39 pm

Dark Bassem wrote:We do have loads of helpers who left the admin team due to being treated like shit/slave.

Give me 3 examples.

Chucky
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 4th, 2014, 6:36 pm

Oak wrote:
Dark Bassem wrote:We do have loads of helpers who left the admin team due to being treated like shit/slave.

Give me 3 examples.
you

Oak
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 4th, 2014, 6:38 pm

Not because of the admins

Chucky
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 4th, 2014, 6:38 pm

But treated like shit.

Kody Vendetta
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 5th, 2014, 4:32 am

If helpers treated like shit by admins.. why would they become a helper in the first place?? :|

Dude use your common sense !! being a helper isn't just a tag :|

Oak
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 5th, 2014, 4:37 am

ManOfClass wrote:If helpers treated like shit by admins.. why would they become a helper in the first place?? :|

Dude use your common sense !! being a helper isn't just a tag :|
It's not by the admins that Chucky was talking about. I only remember 1 case of that happening, and the admin in question is no longer an admin.

Chucky
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 5th, 2014, 3:25 pm

ManOfClass wrote:If helpers treated like shit by admins.. why would they become a helper in the first place?? :|

Dude use your common sense !! being a helper isn't just a tag :|
I, myself in real life adore helping people, watching them succeed in whatever they thought they couldn't. It's just in my nature to plant tiny seeds in one's thoughts just to watch them filled with hope, being successful and eventually happy.

That being said, after a couple of month within SASF and "maturing" up within the server through people helping me and pointing out what I was doing wrong, I realized that a helper team existed. I started helping my own members (sasf) just to teach myself new methods of reaching out. Once I've developed that, I applied everything on myself, started working. Reading through the newbies guides just to see which I had trouble with and if they were there or not. I used to go out irl with zohar,sean,anthony,nicholai and you'd see me writing notes down on my phone on a guide I was currently doing, this can all be confirmed.

It's not the tag that makes you want to be a helper, or the list on /admins. It's the sole reason of helping, putting forward the knowledge you have and lending a helping hand. Being treated like shit is mostly ignored or not faced up until it starts getting to you. Just because you're a helper, people expect a different opinion from you, let's call it "A-opinion". If you happen to give out your opinion of what YOU actually think they'll start bullshitting you with "you're a helper hahaha" - Call it "B-Opinion". You're either a robot, following everything like a mindless slave, or develop to be the very best, still either or shit will be thrown at you, without you even noticing at times. My first few weeks of being in OOC mode, nerding at unity, Nico came up to me and said the following

"hahah, ton viegel wants to be a helper"
"You'll never make it, don't you think I know how you got your 1bill?" [Just an accusation which is not true.]
"You stole it from XXX_XXX"

Which is my first encounter of someone hating me completely without even getting to know me, and that is the main problem. People expect people to do something to prove themselves to one another, if that mentality was to be recreated and formed in a way of destroying the wall between PLAYERS|HELPERS|ADMINS it would much much greater, but that develops another problem, a problem which haunts 3/4 of the admins currently here. The fear of losing friends just because you had to punish them, that's one of the main reasons why this wall can't be brought down. A dozen of people talk to admins/helpers just so that they can get "privileges" when breaking a rule. I assure you, admins don't treat helpers like shit (except for the first 2 months where they call you an amateur for the lolz) you can't say "Admins" treat "helpers" like shit. There are specific people who treat other specific people like shit, you can't gather everyone up in 1 bowl, but eventually nothing can change if you don't change yourself to change others.
Last edited by Chucky on October 5th, 2014, 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Fabio
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Re: Helper Applications open

October 5th, 2014, 3:31 pm

you stole 1 billion? that's brilliant

wait was that the zaider thing

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