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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:05 pm

Deck wrote:
donriley wrote:Why not adding new money system value and make it more realistic ..
Because why? When I was younger (no offence intended), I thought the same. But for one, making a truly realistic economy is impossible, and secondly, real life economy isn't even realistic! It's all over the place, it has many problems. It is hard to get it right in real life, let alone in a game where money is so easily made. Also, IM-RP isn't real life, so why should it follow the same conventions as a real life economy. Might as well just give 'Dollars' a new name, because it is essentially its own currency, lol.
It wouldn't decrase anything nor would make any harm to this server, it would been just more realistic.
By the way this is a roleplay game therefore it should follow some basic criteria...

If it's isn't near as real life why do people get jailed then..

I don't know how do you find this impossible, maybe it's just because people can show off, but i'd like to see this very soon

And how can for instance a Baseball bat cost $2,000? isn't that stupid? :D
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:08 pm

donriley wrote:
Deck wrote:
donriley wrote:Why not adding new money system value and make it more realistic ..
Because why? When I was younger (no offence intended), I thought the same. But for one, making a truly realistic economy is impossible, and secondly, real life economy isn't even realistic! It's all over the place, it has many problems. It is hard to get it right in real life, let alone in a game where money is so easily made. Also, IM-RP isn't real life, so why should it follow the same conventions as a real life economy. Might as well just give 'Dollars' a new name, because it is essentially its own currency, lol.
It wouldn't decrase anything nor would make any harm to this server, it would been just more realistic.
By the way this is a roleplay game therefore it should follow some basic criteria...

If it's isn't near as real life why do people get jailed then..

I don't know how do you find this impossible, maybe it's just because people can show off, but i'd like to see this very soon
I don't wanna quote woot's post. This isn't a strict RP server.
It's fine as it is.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:08 pm

Eddie wrote:Admins are ought to be hated, unless they do races and events all the time.
This is by far the best comment in this topic.
One thing to add: Unless you never punished them before*

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:09 pm

Remove a zero from the money value.
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:09 pm

Fabio wrote:
donriley wrote:
Deck wrote:
donriley wrote:Why not adding new money system value and make it more realistic ..
Because why? When I was younger (no offence intended), I thought the same. But for one, making a truly realistic economy is impossible, and secondly, real life economy isn't even realistic! It's all over the place, it has many problems. It is hard to get it right in real life, let alone in a game where money is so easily made. Also, IM-RP isn't real life, so why should it follow the same conventions as a real life economy. Might as well just give 'Dollars' a new name, because it is essentially its own currency, lol.
It wouldn't decrase anything nor would make any harm to this server, it would been just more realistic.
By the way this is a roleplay game therefore it should follow some basic criteria...

If it's isn't near as real life why do people get jailed then..

I don't know how do you find this impossible, maybe it's just because people can show off, but i'd like to see this very soon
I don't wanna quote woot's post. This isn't a strict RP server.
It's fine as it is.
Let me know what he stated about this.
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:11 pm

Read the spoiler in my signature. You can thank me later, Fabio, for not having to search for it.


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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:16 pm

Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Read the spoiler in my signature. You can thank me later, Fabio, for not having to search for it.
I get it, but why is he continuously improving it?I mean.. isn't it all about? I'm trying to convince myself that the im server rules hits the LSRP criteria better.
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:17 pm

P4kit0 wrote:By the way. Remember that when you're online, you probably rearm yourself like 5-15 times due to dying. If you vote to save weapons on /q, you'll save 1 rearm every 5-15.... Which makes you rearm 7%-20% less than you arm nowadays.

I'm pretty sure prices increase will be wayyyy bigger than 7%-20%, so you can expect a backstab of your own suggestions, and you'll end up loosing more money ;) woot will be happy, more money despawned, you'll be annoyed and wanting the old system back in a matter of months.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:18 pm

nyc2see my adjustable items suggestion is in there

OT: pls no wep saving
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:23 pm

donriley wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Read the spoiler in my signature. You can thank me later, Fabio, for not having to search for it.
I get it, but why is he continuously improving it?I mean.. isn't it all about? I'm trying to convince myself that the im server rules hits the LSRP criteria better.
Go and play LSRP.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:24 pm

Fabio wrote:
donriley wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Read the spoiler in my signature. You can thank me later, Fabio, for not having to search for it.
I get it, but why is he continuously improving it?I mean.. isn't it all about? I'm trying to convince myself that the im server rules hits the LSRP criteria better.
Go and play LSRP.
Not a solution.
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:29 pm

Bringing FBI back would be plain retarded, it doesn't fit the server at all. FBI goals are to FK faction members based on strict RP arguments/evidences. When those evidences were gathered while factions are enjoying the TDM features of this server.

In last instance, factions would stop robbizing and turfing to avoid being photographed, therefore illegal factions would stop having nothing to fight against each others and legal factions would have no robberies to attend and keep themselves busy.

I think nobody wants that.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:34 pm

P4kit0 wrote:Bringing FBI back would be plain retarded, it doesn't fit the server at all. FBI goals are to FK faction members based on strict RP arguments/evidences. When those evidences were gathered while factions are enjoying the TDM features of this server.

In last instance, factions would stop robbizing and turfing to avoid being photographed, therefore illegal factions would stop having nothing to fight against each others and legal factions would have no robberies to attend and keep themselves busy.

I think nobody wants that.
Ofc. it's able to stick out within FBI's eyes. Do it with a lowered tone, RP rob a business/person? It's plenty of options, be creative!
Ofcourse we (Refererring to the old FBI) want to FK faction members, who doesn't know what the heck they're doing. Mafias don't run around and shoot people at an open spot, they don't rob business, gunning down copcars, they do shit underground men. :P

If you now still wants to rob business and take turfs. Do it when none of the FBI Agents are available. Simple.
Fuck man... rulebreaking is more addictive than heroin.
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:43 pm

Add shoutbox, Luigi's sugg. and car surf pls.

I'm strongly against: RP quiz and save weapons.

Rest: IDC.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:44 pm

What the fuck? So let me see if I get what you're ssaying.

Basically you're suggesting me to MG /factions before robbing a business?

And you're basically saying, don't robbiz or turf that often.. So, the main features the server offers us and that keep us occupied for a lot of the time shouldn't be used just because some faction is trying to enforce a strict RP logic in faction killing players? Makes no sense. woot said it, this is not supposed to be a server orientated to the RP standards of other strict RP servers. Adding FBI would be a giant step back towards that gameplay logic.

I do understand why some players (Mostly old members or wannabe members) want FBI back. IM's typical player strives for power. Having the ability of FKing a player you don't like based in some Photos that anyone with 60+IQ can take is the best way of having this power people strive for. Unfortunately, it doesn't fit the server we're in nor it pleases the playerbase.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:47 pm

I feel really sad for Misha, hope the same doesn't happen to FD..:(
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:48 pm

donriley wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Read the spoiler in my signature. You can thank me later, Fabio, for not having to search for it.
I get it, but why is he continuously improving it?I mean.. isn't it all about? I'm trying to convince myself that the im server rules hits the LSRP criteria better.
You don't have to guess anything. The course of the community has been set way back in 2010. IM threads a delicate path which is harder to mantain than any outrightly TDM/Roleplay server.


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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 10:57 pm

BUTCHER wrote:Done. Great job, unfortunately Mikhail's gone :/

I do hope the EMS stays, although there is no roleplay. It was/is Ray's legacy.
It's a DM server mate, was and will. Or Cops and Robbers, just name it.
We RP when people want to and hey, no one forces anyone here to RP.
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:00 pm

EMS should stay; I like them. They're not abusing their legal status and they provide roleplay experience to whoever requires it. The only thing I find annoying is the amount of objects that had to be mapped to sustain them.


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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:01 pm

Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Alright, nice one. I just want to point out that everyone should think twice about the FBI thing and saving weapons. Saving weapons won't do much good when they're much more expensive. Think about it.
FBI is useful in this server, they will make you hard time, but this is what the game is about.
If everything was so easy - then this game won't be fun, only when there are consequences to you'r actions, the fun starts.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:03 pm

dskhvci13 wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Alright, nice one. I just want to point out that everyone should think twice about the FBI thing and saving weapons. Saving weapons won't do much good when they're much more expensive. Think about it.
FBI is useful in this server, they will make you hard time, but this is what the game is about.
If everything was so easy - then this game won't be fun, only when there are consequences to you'r actions, the fun starts.
FBI is useless; they never made anything hard for me actually. I don't consider a few masked dudes taking pictures of my men robbing a business to be some sort of a hindering factor, not at all. The only thing I've seen coming from them is sniper overuse and metagame in a crude form of stalking business robberies and automaticly connecting them with T0 members of factions and later on using this to file a request for FKing or whatever they felt like asking for. Their flawed modus operandi was the reason these FKs were denied so many times.


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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:05 pm

Luigi Tattaglia wrote:
dskhvci13 wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Alright, nice one. I just want to point out that everyone should think twice about the FBI thing and saving weapons. Saving weapons won't do much good when they're much more expensive. Think about it.
FBI is useful in this server, they will make you hard time, but this is what the game is about.
If everything was so easy - then this game won't be fun, only when there are consequences to you'r actions, the fun starts.
FBI is useless; they never made anything hard for me actually. I don't consider a few masked dudes taking pictures of my men robbing a business to be some sort of a hindering factor, not at all. The only thing I've seen coming from them is sniper overuse and metagame in a crude form of stalking business robberies and automaticly connecting them with T0 members of factions and later on using this to file a request for FKing or whatever they felt like asking for. Their flawed modus operandi was the reason these FKs were denied so many times.
woot is protecting Tatt anyways x'3

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:06 pm

Now that statement has nothing to do with anything factual; FBI was never meant to be FKing/CKing anyone, whichever way you wish to take it. If it was down to the FBI, there would be no stable faction on IM.

Some LEA members had suddenly gotten it into their head to request CKs on different illegal faction members, which they never had as an option handed to them. You cannot do what you're not allowed to do. Its as simple as that. woot sometimes used the FBI as a nice IC way to remove factions which OOC deserved to be wiped.


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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:09 pm

bring back fbi and i'll release each member name for 1 mil

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:10 pm

fbi = most useless faction for this server

and ye @andrew.. ppl would just leak names just cause they hate /someone/

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:10 pm

yea i agree fbi useless as fuk
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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:11 pm

Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Now that statement has nothing to do with anything factual; FBI was never meant to be FKing/CKing anyone, whichever way you wish to take it. If it was down to the FBI, there would be no stable faction on IM.
There is FBI, and there is the old FBI faction.
By vouching to bring back the FBI it's doesn't mean i want the old FBI players there (Noah Vosen etc..)
They simply didn't do their job well enough and good enough.

On there other hand, i remember when FBI arrested a tattaglia member, everything he did was trolling and he diddn't gave a fuck about the game, which sucks.

If you want to have fun about the game, then you need to have consequences for you'r actions, take a glance at the "monopoly" game, people play it, and sometimes they loose, but it's still a fun game.

The only reason for you to not wanting FBI back is because you know you will have hard time staying on guard with you'r faction continues trolling around.

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:12 pm

dskhvci13 wrote:
Luigi Tattaglia wrote:Now that statement has nothing to do with anything factual; FBI was never meant to be FKing/CKing anyone, whichever way you wish to take it. If it was down to the FBI, there would be no stable faction on IM.
There is FBI, and there is the old FBI faction.
By vouching to bring back the FBI it's doesn't mean i want the old FBI players there (Noah Vosen etc..)
They simply didn't do their job well enough and good enough.

On there other hand, i remember when FBI arrested a tattaglia member, everything he did was trolling and he diddn't gave a fuck about the game, which sucks.

If you want to have fun about the game, then you need to have consequences for you'r actions, take a glance at the "monopoly" game, people play it, and sometimes they loose, but it's still a fun game.

The only reason for you to not wanting FBI back is because you know you will have hard time staying on guard with you'r faction continues trolling around.
idk why but every reply of yours that i read, don't make sense to me l0l

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Re: Survey conclusions

May 16th, 2014, 11:15 pm

I won't have a hard at all because I never expose myself at robberies; I rarely rob anyway because I've left it behind me a long time ago.

I am speaking about the greater benefit of the server. If FBI can gather info about factions, then factions should be able to kill off the agents aswell. Its as simple as that. This is where these individuals go bonkers mad about this and all of a sudden drop their FBI "roleplay standards" and suddenly take the "but this is a game" wild card. You either apply high-end roleplay to everything or you don't apply it at all/leaving it optional.


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