[Staff] What happened to the Server Documentation?

[Oak]

In 2015 we put down a lot of effort in this section, yet some things are really, really outdated. Is there a particular reason why it's not updated or is it's just lazyness?

[tisler]

What's outdated?

[Cypress]

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=102131


Lots of guides, but not actually used

[Oak]

What's outdated?

I can't tell you everything as I don't know absolutely every change, however:

• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68594 - There are no Squallo runs
• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=76179 - Images are missing
• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67404 - Fingerprints aren't included, images are missing, Corruption IS allowed
• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66495 - Images missing

Just four small examples

[Cypress]

yh okay they can be updated i guess, but most things u need can be found ig. rarely u gonna see newbies going on forums looking for guides when they have it ig

[Vegas]

I guess /whatsnew in game replaced it.

[Oak]

yh okay they can be updated i guess, but most things u need can be found ig. rarely u gonna see newbies going on forums looking for guides when they have it ig

True, but first of all it's not really juts for 'newbies' since I also needed to check up on some info and found it missing.

Secondly, maybe the reason why new players can't rely on the forums for information is because it's not there, often the best way to help a new player is to show them a place where they can get all the information, and if it's inexistent then... well, shit happened.

(And asking something really basic IG didn't help one bit, even with 3 helpers and 2 admins online)

Heck, just yesterday I was helping out a player who was mixing and just gave him a few pointers. Later on he was pulled over for speeding by PD, and asked me the speed limit. I was like "I don't think there's a set limit" -> "But they said I was over the speed limit" . Small things help in the long run.


/Whatsnew was there before though,

[Cypress]

a small update would be fine to re-add the images and some new features

but tbh i never really see newbies on the forums lol - most are prob too lazy to actually search for these documentations and therefore rely on ig commands / helpers

[Oak]

a small update would be fine

but tbh i never really see newbies on the forums lol - most are prob too lazy to actually search for these documentations and rely on ig commands / helpers

If they can understand english they will come here to at least read the rules (or an overview), and having outdated info looks really bad imo, either have it nice and clean or don't :/

[tisler]

What's outdated?

I can't tell you everything as I don't know absolutely every change, however:

• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68594 - There are no Squallo runs
• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=76179 - Images are missing
• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67404 - Fingerprints aren't included, images are missing, Corruption IS allowed
• viewtopic.php?f=11&t=66495 - Images missing

Just four small examples

Lots and lots of images got lost due to http://files.sa-mp.im database being 'deleted' or whatever happened to it. Every pre 2015 thread/post with an image is broken most likely.

[K3]

yh okay they can be updated i guess, but most things u need can be found ig. rarely u gonna see newbies going on forums looking for guides when they have it ig

True, but first of all it's not really juts for 'newbies' since I also needed to check up on some info and found it missing.

Secondly, maybe the reason why new players can't rely on the forums for information is because it's not there, often the best way to help a new player is to show them a place where they can get all the information, and if it's inexistent then... well, shit happened.

(And asking something really basic IG didn't help one bit, even with 3 helpers and 2 admins online)

Heck, just yesterday I was helping out a player who was mixing and just gave him a few pointers. Later on he was pulled over for speeding by PD, and asked me the speed limit. I was like "I don't think there's a set limit" -> "But they said I was over the speed limit" . Small things help in the long run.


/Whatsnew was there before though,

/laws shud have speed limit

[wiz]

a small update would be fine

but tbh i never really see newbies on the forums lol - most are prob too lazy to actually search for these documentations and rely on ig commands / helpers

If they can understand english they will come here to at least read the rules (or an overview), and having outdated info looks really bad imo, either have it nice and clean or don't :/

the 'newbies' joining IM are Egyptian twelve year olds that have no intention of following the rules or playing objectively, they just mess around and/or hack.
that's the root of the problem in my eyes..

[Oak]

a small update would be fine

but tbh i never really see newbies on the forums lol - most are prob too lazy to actually search for these documentations and rely on ig commands / helpers

If they can understand english they will come here to at least read the rules (or an overview), and having outdated info looks really bad imo, either have it nice and clean or don't :/

the 'newbies' joining IM are Egyptian twelve year olds that have no intention of following the rules or playing objectively, they just mess around and/or hack.
that's the root of the problem in my eyes..

They copy older players :/

Remember when after level 6 your "grace period" for breaking rules ended? Now level 15s are mixing and "teaching" level 5s

[wiz]

a small update would be fine

but tbh i never really see newbies on the forums lol - most are prob too lazy to actually search for these documentations and rely on ig commands / helpers

If they can understand english they will come here to at least read the rules (or an overview), and having outdated info looks really bad imo, either have it nice and clean or don't :/

the 'newbies' joining IM are Egyptian twelve year olds that have no intention of following the rules or playing objectively, they just mess around and/or hack.
that's the root of the problem in my eyes..

They copy older players :/

Remember when after level 6 your "grace period" for breaking rules ended? Now level 15s are mixing and "teaching" level 5s

Yeap. Couldn't have explained it any better.

[Colkee]

the 'newbies' joining IM are Egyptian twelve year olds that have no intention of following the rules or playing objectively, they just mess around and/or hack.
that's the root of the problem in my eyes..

[Oak]

They copy older players :/

Remember when after level 6 your "grace period" for breaking rules ended? Now level 15s are mixing and "teaching" level 5s

Yeap. Couldn't have explained it any better.

Just had this newb hit my car, me telling him IC to drive better. He chased me all the way from carlot to ganton, and started stomping on my car when I stopped. I even reported him and got a bit pissed cuz out of 2 admins and 4 helpers no one was coming to freeze that newb.

Then realized he was level 11, fml.

[wiz]

They copy older players :/

Remember when after level 6 your "grace period" for breaking rules ended? Now level 15s are mixing and "teaching" level 5s

Yeap. Couldn't have explained it any better.

Just had this newb hit my car, me telling him IC to drive better. He chased me all the way from carlot to ganton, and started stomping on my car when I stopped. I even reported him and got a bit pissed cuz out of 2 admins and 4 helpers no one was coming to freeze that newb.

Then realized he was level 11, fml.

Lol look at the Ponzi Kingdom, those dudes are like level 80 or something and perfectly fit the scenario you just stated. xD

[Ramy]

Players can use this for their questions or they may use /faq in-game.

Is this needed anymore, Oak?

[Oak]

I guess you can close it, although it doesn't really explain why the section wasn't updated since creation :/

[Ramy]

Closed/Answered.

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