Server Rules

[Oak]

Looting dead bodies is a crime. Just make sure you report it to high ranked officers(even though Sean is T0 xD).

Yes, but I'm not taking his money. I am removing illegal property (if it's materials / drugs) is he has them, and I am offering a public service. Note that I ain't going hunt for licenses. But if you shoot me to avoid losing the license, you're damn right I'mma screw you.

@ Sean if he's dead IC and you want to remove his shits IC, RP the death. Take the body to the hospital, RP trying to save him, RP him dead, going to morgue, etc.

I mean, you can't "assume he's dead IC" for what's good for you, and then ignore it when it's not good for you. Would you like to spend all day RPing with dead bodies?

Did I assumed he was dead? I always confirm if he's dead or not , and usually when I do the /me the guy accepts the death. And I did tried to take him to the morgue (stated above). He accepted death to avoid that part of the RP. I had an ambulance on the way actually.

[Object]

Sean , that's just a lame you just take his licenses/mats/drugs for what reason , lol.
so i can kill you and take your wep lic and use it in legal shops instead XD ?! or other say i can just take all your money since you're IC dead you won't need them anymore.

[Luigi Tattaglia]

I am almost certain the "RP after getting killed" rule was brought in because players shot others to avoid getting robbed or arrested because they can simply respawn by using /acceptdeath. However, the licenses already cost much are hard to get by. There is no alternative way(incase my sugg. gets denied regarding the sniper) to obtain it.

You will just cause all players to instantly type /acceptdeath to avoid roleplaying with you.

[Oak]

Sean , that's just a lame you just take his licenses/mats/drugs for what reason , lol.
so i can kill you and take your wep lic and use it in legal shops instead XD ?! or other say i can just take all your money since you're IC dead you won't need them anymore.

RP getting my face too while you're at it.

I am almost certain the "RP after getting killed" rule was brought in because players shot others to avoid getting robbed or arrested because they can simply respawn by using /acceptdeath. However, the licenses already cost much are hard to get by. There is no alternative way(incase my sugg. gets denied regarding the sniper) to obtain it.

You will just cause all players to instantly type /acceptdeath to avoid roleplaying with you.

Licenses cost 500k. Are you telling me you can't fund over 20 licenses easily?

[oeoeoe]

There are a lot of RP to be done when you remove declare a criminal dead, remove evidences of the crime, etc. I hope you do that everytime you remove mats/licenses/drugs from a dead body. Like going to PD, opening a criminal file with the details of the crime, mark each evidences properly and record their entrance in the evidences room. RP removing license in the system. Follow the ambulance, make sure the guy died, etc.

Are you up to do all that everytime you kill someone? Or you just want to remove their stuffs cause "he is dead for you IC" and keep your life like nothing happened?

[Oak]

There are a lot of RP to be done when you remove declare a criminal dead, remove evidences of the crime, etc. I hope you do that everytime you remove mats/licenses/drugs from a dead body. Like going to PD, opening a criminal file with the details of the crime, mark each evidences properly and record their entrance in the evidences room. RP removing license in the system. Follow the ambulance, make sure the guy died, etc.

Are you up to do all that everytime you kill someone? Or you just want to remove their stuffs cause "he is dead for you IC" and keep your life like nothing happened?

I am willing to RP all that. Are YOU willing to do it? I highly doupt you are. I mean, if on a robbery a cop surrenders to save his life the best thing you can do is shoot him.... you're not very smart.

[Armando_Benvenuti]

So when I kill a cop IC I can tell him to /charity his money etc aswell because he's dead for me?

[oeoeoe]

There are a lot of RP to be done when you remove declare a criminal dead, remove evidences of the crime, etc. I hope you do that everytime you remove mats/licenses/drugs from a dead body. Like going to PD, opening a criminal file with the details of the crime, mark each evidences properly and record their entrance in the evidences room. RP removing license in the system. Follow the ambulance, make sure the guy died, etc.

Are you up to do all that everytime you kill someone? Or you just want to remove their stuffs cause "he is dead for you IC" and keep your life like nothing happened?

I am willing to RP all that. Are YOU willing to do it? I highly doupt you are. I mean, if on a robbery a cop surrenders to save his life the best thing you can do is shoot him.... you're not very smart.

I'm pretty sure you're not willing to do that with every single body you kill. It would be a pain in the ass and you would spend all day long doing it. AND I'm sure if that was forced in PD 90% of the department would resign.

Regarding the surrendering and shooting, wtf are u talking about?

I am almost certain the "RP after getting killed" rule was brought in because players shot others to avoid getting robbed or arrested because they can simply respawn by using /acceptdeath. However, the licenses already cost much are hard to get by. There is no alternative way(incase my sugg. gets denied regarding the sniper) to obtain it.

You will just cause all players to instantly type /acceptdeath to avoid roleplaying with you.

Licenses cost 500k. Are you telling me you can't fund over 20 licenses easily?

LOL 1st not everyone has the money that Luigi has. 2nd They are a fucking pain in the ass to write.

One thing. If I died IC for you and therefore you remove my license, that means I can re-apply assuming I never had license, right?

[Oak]

There are a lot of RP to be done when you remove declare a criminal dead, remove evidences of the crime, etc. I hope you do that everytime you remove mats/licenses/drugs from a dead body. Like going to PD, opening a criminal file with the details of the crime, mark each evidences properly and record their entrance in the evidences room. RP removing license in the system. Follow the ambulance, make sure the guy died, etc.

Are you up to do all that everytime you kill someone? Or you just want to remove their stuffs cause "he is dead for you IC" and keep your life like nothing happened?

I am willing to RP all that. Are YOU willing to do it? I highly doupt you are. I mean, if on a robbery a cop surrenders to save his life the best thing you can do is shoot him.... you're not very smart.

I'm pretty sure you're not willing to do that with every single body you kill. It would be a pain in the ass and you would spend all day long doing it. AND I'm sure if that was forced in PD 90% of the department would resign.

Regarding the surrendering and shooting, wtf are u talking about?

Talking about an handful of situations I've seen with Corleone, Tattaglia, Stracci and Cuneo.

I am almost certain the "RP after getting killed" rule was brought in because players shot others to avoid getting robbed or arrested because they can simply respawn by using /acceptdeath. However, the licenses already cost much are hard to get by. There is no alternative way(incase my sugg. gets denied regarding the sniper) to obtain it.

You will just cause all players to instantly type /acceptdeath to avoid roleplaying with you.

Licenses cost 500k. Are you telling me you can't fund over 20 licenses easily?

LOL 1st not everyone has the money that Luigi has. 2nd They are a fucking pain in the ass to write.

One thing. If I died IC for you and therefore you remove my license, that means I can re-apply assuming I never had license, right?

Understand one thing, this is a Mafia based server. It revolves around Mafias, and Mafias SHOULD keep sharp when it concerns Law Enforcement. I'm not taking your license if you were robbing for example, but if you decide to act like a moron and start a gun fight to get out of an infraction (or maybe even the removal of a license), I'm sure as hell taking it.

The license is expensive for new players, although, if you have the money to play in Casinos, then you have 500k to spare for a weapon license that is not only permanent (if you don't act like a douche), but also grants you acess to easy weaponry.
If they are a pain in the ass to write, then you are doing something wrong. I can write them easily, very easily, just need a bit of creativity. And intelligence. Saying that your dad died and you want a gun to get revenge is not only stupid, but may bite you in the ass.

If you died IC for us, assuming we add you to the revoked list, IF you re-apply, then we are going to deny it IC. Why? It's someone pretending to be a dead guy.

[Luigi Tattaglia]

I, for instance, am permanently banned from obtaining a license for 8 months now even though I've lost it only once. That is the problem.

I am fairly sure(Kelroy can correct me if I'm wrong) that this rule was made so players who are getting robbed cannot avoid it by getting themselves killed and so players who are being chased by the cops cannot evade losing materials/drugs because they got themselves killed. Removing materials and drugs from a player if you've started RPing with his dead body before he accepted death is fine. Its common sense.

I don't see how this feature was intended to remove someone's weapon license after he died. You should OOC take it into account that what you've done is not a FK and that not everything should be taken.

[Oak]

I don't see how this feature was intended to remove someone's weapon license after he died. You should OOC take it into account that what you've done is not a FK and that not everything should be taken.

Like I said (You sure love to ignore my statements). I'm not removing licenses on people that died in a legit GF. But if you create one to avoid losing the license, I'm sure as fuck removing it.


If I am being nice while RPing, and you are nice to me and RP along, I might even let you keep your stuff, RP along. Act like a dick and I'll use dick moves.

[Luigi Tattaglia]

Like I said (You sure love to ignore my statements). I'm not removing licenses on people that died in a legit GF. But if you create one to avoid losing the license, I'm sure as fuck removing it.

What you just said doesn't make sense because every gunfight starts because players want to avoid losing their materials/drugs/weapon license. Ain't that obvious?

If you pull someone over and show clear signs of wanting to arrest that player, its obvious he will call backup and a gunfight will take place.

This is exactly why my vote was no in that "/forcelegalclose" suggestion. When you're given authority to do something, you will do so whenever you can and be proud of it @ "I'll use dick moves".

I will drop this subject now as I do not want to take part in derailing the announcement.

The update regarding the rules is good, but players are already starting to make workarounds around the updates. I hope the rules will keep on getting updated. Cheers.

[Oak]

Like I said (You sure love to ignore my statements). I'm not removing licenses on people that died in a legit GF. But if you create one to avoid losing the license, I'm sure as fuck removing it.

What you just said doesn't make sense because every gunfight starts because players want to avoid losing their materials/drugs/weapon license. Ain't that obvious?

If you pull someone over and show clear signs of wanting to arrest that player, its obvious he will call backup and a gunfight will take place.

Exactly. You hit the point that most people struggle to find. People start GFs to avoid being arrested. Yes, that's fine by me. But let's say that for example I see you waving around an illegal weapon. To make it simpler, let's say that you just bought it from ammunation. I'mma ask you to give me the gun, and I will infract your license and fine you. But then, I get shot (to avoid an infraction), in that case I will really take it.

PD doesn't take licenses for no reason. We only instantly revoke it if you used it to kill (or try to) someone.

[Donald]

Like I said (You sure love to ignore my statements). I'm not removing licenses on people that died in a legit GF. But if you create one to avoid losing the license, I'm sure as fuck removing it.

What you just said doesn't make sense because every gunfight starts because players want to avoid losing their materials/drugs/weapon license. Ain't that obvious?

If you pull someone over and show clear signs of wanting to arrest that player, its obvious he will call backup and a gunfight will take place.

Exactly. You hit the point that most people struggle to find. People start GFs to avoid being arrested. Yes, that's fine by me. But let's say that for example I see you waving around an illegal weapon. To make it simpler, let's say that you just bought it from ammunation. I'mma ask you to give me the gun, and I will infract your license and fine you. But then, I get shot (to avoid an infraction), in that case I will really take it.

PD doesn't take licenses for no reason. We only instantly revoke it if you used it to kill (or try to) someone.

The thing is; that you barely can remove any licenses from faction members, you get butt raped every time.

[Oak]

Like I said (You sure love to ignore my statements). I'm not removing licenses on people that died in a legit GF. But if you create one to avoid losing the license, I'm sure as fuck removing it.

What you just said doesn't make sense because every gunfight starts because players want to avoid losing their materials/drugs/weapon license. Ain't that obvious?

If you pull someone over and show clear signs of wanting to arrest that player, its obvious he will call backup and a gunfight will take place.

Exactly. You hit the point that most people struggle to find. People start GFs to avoid being arrested. Yes, that's fine by me. But let's say that for example I see you waving around an illegal weapon. To make it simpler, let's say that you just bought it from ammunation. I'mma ask you to give me the gun, and I will infract your license and fine you. But then, I get shot (to avoid an infraction), in that case I will really take it.

PD doesn't take licenses for no reason. We only instantly revoke it if you used it to kill (or try to) someone.

The thing is; that you barely can remove any licenses from faction members, you get butt raped every time.

At least I don't stall OOC :3


If you have anything else to say, please open a new thread.

[oeoeoe]

Spoiler

There are a lot of RP to be done when you remove declare a criminal dead, remove evidences of the crime, etc. I hope you do that everytime you remove mats/licenses/drugs from a dead body. Like going to PD, opening a criminal file with the details of the crime, mark each evidences properly and record their entrance in the evidences room. RP removing license in the system. Follow the ambulance, make sure the guy died, etc.

Are you up to do all that everytime you kill someone? Or you just want to remove their stuffs cause "he is dead for you IC" and keep your life like nothing happened?

I am willing to RP all that. Are YOU willing to do it? I highly doupt you are. I mean, if on a robbery a cop surrenders to save his life the best thing you can do is shoot him.... you're not very smart.

I'm pretty sure you're not willing to do that with every single body you kill. It would be a pain in the ass and you would spend all day long doing it. AND I'm sure if that was forced in PD 90% of the department would resign.

Regarding the surrendering and shooting, wtf are u talking about?

Talking about an handful of situations I've seen with Corleone, Tattaglia, Stracci and Cuneo.

I am almost certain the "RP after getting killed" rule was brought in because players shot others to avoid getting robbed or arrested because they can simply respawn by using /acceptdeath. However, the licenses already cost much are hard to get by. There is no alternative way(incase my sugg. gets denied regarding the sniper) to obtain it.

You will just cause all players to instantly type /acceptdeath to avoid roleplaying with you.

Licenses cost 500k. Are you telling me you can't fund over 20 licenses easily?

LOL 1st not everyone has the money that Luigi has. 2nd They are a fucking pain in the ass to write.

One thing. If I died IC for you and therefore you remove my license, that means I can re-apply assuming I never had license, right?

Understand one thing, this is a Mafia based server. It revolves around Mafias, and Mafias SHOULD keep sharp when it concerns Law Enforcement. I'm not taking your license if you were robbing for example, but if you decide to act like a moron and start a gun fight to get out of an infraction (or maybe even the removal of a license), I'm sure as hell taking it.

"I'm not taking licence if" can't work like that, first who guarantees me you won't? Second who guarantees me the whole PD won't as well? I think this rule needs a revision urgently.

The license is expensive for new players, although, if you have the money to play in Casinos, then you have 500k to spare for a weapon license that is not only permanent (if you don't act like a douche), but also grants you acess to easy weaponry.
If they are a pain in the ass to write, then you are doing something wrong. I can write them easily, very easily, just need a bit of creativity. And intelligence. Saying that your dad died and you want a gun to get revenge is not only stupid, but may bite you in the ass.

Don't come with that sarcasm thinking you're the intelligent guy here. I've written multiple apps both for me and others and never got one denied. Anyways, they are surely a pain in the ass, even more when you're doing it for the 20x time.

If you died IC for us, assuming we add you to the revoked list, IF you re-apply, then we are going to deny it IC. Why? It's someone pretending to be a dead guy.

WOT? Next time make some more sense please.
If I died, why you added me to revoked list? lol
If I died, how can I re-apply?
Either you assume I just died and I can't re-aplly or play the game at all, or you assume I died and am starting a new life and I can surely apply for the license. OR just don't be horny and take shits just cause you killed someone.

[Luigi Tattaglia]

Exactly. If you died for him IC, then you wouldn't be able to apply again, which then means if he removes it from a dead body, you're automaticly perm banned from the weapon license. This is why I earlier said that the license shouldn't be removed from a dead body seeing as the kill is not a FK. Had to add this ^^

[Oak]

Like I said, open a new thread. But since you really want me to awnser you, there is a reason it's called revoked list and not banned list.

[oeoeoe]

yes, because when a criminal dies the cops go to the system and revoke his license. ye. u make no sense at all, just like that rule. Anyways, I'll keep accepting, enjoy writing reports.

[Oak]

yes, because when a criminal dies the cops go to the system and revoke his license. ye. u make no sense at all, just like that rule. Anyways, I'll keep accepting, enjoy writing reports.

Actually, whenever a cop has to use force he has to report it....

[oeoeoe]

yes, because when a criminal dies the cops go to the system and revoke his license. ye. u make no sense at all, just like that rule. Anyways, I'll keep accepting, enjoy writing reports.

Actually, whenever a cop has to use force he has to report it....

How is that related to what I said? lol

[Oak]

yes, because when a criminal dies the cops go to the system and revoke his license. ye. u make no sense at all, just like that rule. Anyways, I'll keep accepting, enjoy writing reports.

Actually, whenever a cop has to use force he has to report it....

How is that related to what I said? lol

I'll put it in another way for you to understand:

You tell me that I can't fit a coin in a hole. Then I tell you that I can fit a Ball in that same hole.



O-P-E-N A N-E-W T-H-R-E-A-D if you want to continue this.

[oeoeoe]

The fact that you have to report something doesn't mean you revoke everything the person has.

And, aren't we commenting one of the rules that changed? Isn't it the purpose of this thread? Ehm, I'm confused.

[Bossnigguh]

Oak, are you trying to ruin everyones fun on this server? Because that is what you are doing from what I heard.

Just because you have the power to do something doesnt mean you should abuse it. I know its annoying to get killed all the time, especially for a whiner like yourself, but learn take it like a man or simply get better at this game. If you keep this up you will cause alot of whine which will lead to either 1. rule change, 2. License obtainable without the need of PD T1/T0 presence or 3. obtaining sniper/m4 illegaly just like we did in old times. You will screw yourself over just because you are trying to gain control IC by abusing OOC ways. (knowing people cant get sniper without license, which is why you keep going for removal)

I am checking the rules now, I didnt check all yet, but I fully agree with what Luigi & oeoeoe stated above regarding this situation.

[Oak]

Oak, are you trying to ruin everyones fun on this server? Because that is what you are doing from what I heard.

Just because you have the power to do something doesnt mean you should abuse it. I know its annoying to get killed all the time, especially for a whiner like yourself, but learn take it like a man or simply get better at this game. If you keep this up you will cause alot of whine which will lead to either 1. rule change, 2. License obtainable without the need of PD T1/T0 presence or 3. obtaining sniper/m4 illegaly just like we did in old times. You will screw yourself over just because you are trying to gain control IC by abusing OOC ways. (knowing people cant get sniper without license, which is why you keep going for removal)

I am checking the rules now, I didnt check all yet, but I fully agree with what Luigi & oeoeoe stated above regarding this situation.

I suggest you to re-read the posts. I'm not removing licenses from tier1/0 to take the sniper. I remove them based on http://pd.sa-mp.im/announcements.php?aid=4 .

I don't really appreciate that you claim I whine because I die a lot, because in fact, I'm not on the killist that often. When I whine, and I do whine, is when I'm shot for shitty reasons, and when people just create a situation where they force their death, just to avoid losing something. If they do that, I'll remove the things they wanted to protect. If you don't act like a jackass, I won't do it.


Honestly, I couldn't give a flying fuck if you have a sniper with it or not. I mean, nowadays people just promote to tier 1 whoever has a license.

[oeoeoe]

lol, we all know why all the PD is so horny in jailing T1/0's. Don't come with bullshits.

[Oak]

lol, we all know why all the PD is so horny in jailing T1/0's. Don't come with bullshits.

Report them if that happens. One thing is being thrilled by jailing a bastard shooting cops. Another is being thrilled because we arrested a tier 1/0 for stealing a car, while he's unarmed.

[Bossnigguh]

@Oak
Yeah okay, as long as you got my message.

I mean, how would everyone else feel if I abused the /close command for paintball and /open it only for Tatts? I am allowed to do that, I wouldnt be breaking any rules, but I would be ruining peoples fun, thats exactly how people feel when you remove their sniper, you basically take away one of the server features from them.

[oeoeoe]

Report?
Me: "Oh, I was shooting in a robbery and they arrested me took all the drugs, materials and licenses"
Admin: "And?"

[Bossnigguh]

Yeah, go report Yards and see how that goes, he kept taking our licenses everytime he busted one of us, no matter the charges.